Nobody Should Believe Me
Episodes
BONUS: Unabridged Interview with Jackie Rodriguez
12 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
We are working hard on season 5 of Nobody Should Believe Me, but in the meantime, we’re bringing you a series of unabridged interviews from the expe...
BONUS: Unabridged Interview with Bea Yorker
05 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Law professor, nurse, and president of Munchausen Support, Bea Yorker, shares what first got her interested in working with Munchausen by proxy cases,...
S04 Ep10: No One is Coming to Save Us
22 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In our season four finale, we talk about what justice looks like for survivors of abuse and how to recover from the loss of an abusive parent. We exam...
S04 Ep09: Cleaning Up The Mess
15 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In the aftermath of Donna’s death, Jo returns home to Hutchinson to plan their mother’s funeral and clean up her mess one final time. As Jo and th...
S04 Ep08: The Long Goodbye
08 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Just as Jo has made huge personal strides in the spring of 2023, Donna slides into a coma and Jo returns to Hutchinson to say what they will believe t...
S04 Ep07: The Body is a Battlefield
01 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Jo starts to make big strides within their personal life. From building community and finding friends, to finally being able to take care of themselve...
S04 Ep06: “I love you to death”
25 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
When Jo begins sharing their experiences online, they get a request from the producers of nationally broadcast television show “The Doctors” to te...
S04 Ep05: Revelations
18 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today we look back at Jo’s revelation in their twenties that they’d been a victim of Munchausen by proxy abuse: a moment that turned their world u...
S04 Ep04: Breaking Free
11 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Jo reconnects with their friend, Kristin, who took them in as a homeless teenager after Jo was removed from Donna’s care due to her alcoholism. As a...
S04 Ep03: Not Without My Daughter
04 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
As we dig deeper into Jo’s history, we tackle one of the many confusing aspects of their childhood: their paternity. We navigate the many twists and...
A Ride-along with The Dating Detectives
01 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this very special crossover episode with our friends at The Dating Detectives, Andrea joins private eye Mackenzie Fultz and comedian Hannah Anderso...
S04 Ep02: “I Brought You Into This World I Can Take You Out”
27 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
While visiting their hometown, Jo reconnects with their older sister, Crystal, to have the deeply honest and heart-wrenching conversation their mother...
S04 Ep01: Welcome To Hutchinson
20 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome to Season 4 of Nobody Should Believe Me! This season we are following the story of Jordyn Hope as they unravel the secrets of their childhood....
Crime Close to Home: A Conversation with Madison McGhee
13 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Andrea Dunlop interviews Madison McGhee, host of the Ice Cold Case podcast, about her personal journey investigating her father's unsolved murder in 2...
A Survivor’s Journey
11 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What if you woke up one day and discovered that your whole life had been a lie? When Jordyn Hope learned about Munchausen by proxy in a college psycho...
Answering Your Season 3 Questions with Dr. Bex
06 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome to the Season 3 mailbag episode! Andrea is joined by Dr. Bex (aka Secret Florida Doctor Friend), to sort through all the commentary and liste...
Child Abuse Prevention: A Conversation with Kathleen Strader
30 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This week Andrea is joined by Kathleen Strader, the National Director for Healthy Families America, the signature home visiting program of Prevent Chi...
What's Happening in Lehigh?
23 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This week Andrea is joined by Dr. Marc Feldman as she dives into the complexities and controversies surrounding medical child abuse and the developing...
S03 E20: Kowalski Case Update with Ethen Shapiro
16 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Join Andrea as she delves back into the ongoing legal battle of Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children's Hospital, with Ethen Shapiro, the lead defens...
S03 E19: What Happened to Beata?
09 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This week's episode delves into the intricate details surrounding Beata Kowalski's death, which was central to the Kowalski's lawsuit against Johns Ho...
S03 E18: What Jack Knew
02 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
As we prepare to launch Season Four next month, we’re revisiting the subject of Season Three—the landmark Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children’...
Cons, Scams, and Adventures in Podcasting with Roberta Blevins and Terra Newell
25 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
On this week's episode, Andrea is joined by Roberta Blevins, creator and host of the Life After MLM podcast, and Terra Newell, who was featured in meg...
Unabridged Conversation with Hope Ybarra
18 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Listen to an episode we're releasing from our subscriber vault -- Andrea's full conversation with Hope Ybarra, whose story we've been revisiting in ou...
Revisiting Season One: There's Hope (Season One Finale)
11 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In the final episode of our look back at season one, Andrea reflects on her experience interviewing Hope Ybarra, how it impacted her in regards to her...
Revisiting Season One: Can They Be Saved?
04 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
After a look back at season 1 episode 7, Can They Be Saved?, Andrea reflects on how her thoughts regarding the psychopathology of Munchausen by Proxy ...
Revisiting Season One: Sisters Surviving
28 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
During this look back at the 6th episode of our first season, we hear the story of twin sisters who survived Munchausen by Proxy at the hands of their...
Revisiting Season One: Nobody Would Believe Me: Dads Part 2
21 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This is the 5th episode of our look back at season one of the show. We revisit Andrea's conversation with two more dads who were a part of Munchausen ...
Unabridged Conversation with Dr. Jessica Pryce
19 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Andrea connects with Dr. Jessica Pryce, an expert on the frontlines of child wellfare work, research, and reform. She talks to Andrea about her book, ...
Revisiting Season One: Nobody Would Believe Me: Dads Part 1
14 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
During this re-aired episode, we revisit our conversation with 2 fathers affected by Munchausen by Proxy. At the end of the episode, we reconnect with...
Revisiting Season One: What's in the Water in Tarrant County?
07 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
We take a look back at the third episode of the show. At the end of the episode, we catch up with Detective Mike Weber, friend of the show and expert ...
Revisiting Season One: Who is Hope?
29 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
We take a look back at the second episode of the show. Stay tuned to hear Andrea share the story of how the show almost didn't air and what she learne...
Revisiting Season One: Sisters
22 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
We're going back to the beginning with an extended version of our very first episode! Be sure to stay tuned until the end for a special postscript wit...
Unabridged interview with Patrick (son of Dr. Sally Smith)
08 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this bonus episode you’ll hear host Andrea Dunlop's full interview with Dr. Sally Smith’s son, Patrick. They discuss the impact of the slanted ...
Unbridged interview with Ethen Shapiro
01 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this bonus episode you’ll hear host Andrea Dunlop's full interview with Ethen Shapiro, lead attorney for John Hopkins All Childrens Hospital. Sha...
Unbridged interview with Detective Mike Weber
25 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this bonus episode you’ll hear host Andrea Dunlop's full interview with friend of the show Detective Mike Weber. Mike—who wrote the FBI gui...
S03 E17: Dangerous Women (Season Finale: Part 3)
18 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In the third and final installment of our exclusive interview with Dr. Sally Smith, she shares her side of what happened in the Maya Kowalski case, ...
S03 E16: Bad Press (Season Finale: Part 2)
11 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In the second part of our exclusive interview with Dr. Sally Smith, we discuss how the media coverage of her reached a fever pitch and turned her life...
S03 E15: The Trials of Dr. Sally Smith (Season Finale: Part 1)
04 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In an exclusive interview with Dr. Sally Smith, host Andrea Dunlop travels to Florida to speak to the embattled child abuse pediatrician about her lif...
A survivor's perspective: unabridged interview with Jordyn Hope
28 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this bonus episode, host Andrea interviews regular guest and friend of the show Jordyn Hope, a survivor of Munchausen by proxy abuse. Jo shares the...
S03 E14: Media Circus
21 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week Andrea examines how the harrowing and complex story of the Maya Kowalski case turned into a pop culture moment, and spread dangerous misinfo...
S03 E13: What Now?
14 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Just when we thought the endless saga of Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens was over...it turns out it might only be beginning. In this episode...
S03 E12: System Override
30 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
With the jury's stunning $242 million verdict in favor of the Kowalski family, host Andrea Dunlop looks at why this case has struck such a nerve on bo...
S03 E11: Star Witness
22 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
As we continue to process the far-reaching implications of the shocking verdict in the Kowalski case, we take a closer look at Maya Kowalski’s testi...
S03 E10: The Verdict Part 2
16 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Andrea checks in with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach hours after the Kowalski verdict comes down. They talk about the judge’s decision t...
S03 E09: The Verdict
10 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Andrea and special guest Bex (aka our Florida pediatrcian friend) process the shocking verdict in the Maya Kowalski trial. After 9 weeks of testimony,...
S03 E08: Trial of the Century
07 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
With a verdict in the case days away, host Andrea Dunlop unpacks some of what’s happened so far in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial ...
S03 E07: The Believers Part 2
03 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
As the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial barrels forward, new information comes to light each day about what really happened to Maya Kowals...
S03 E06: The Believers Part 1
02 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In today’s episode, Andrea seeks an outside perspective on the controversial Maya Kowalski case. Laura Richards, host of Crime Analyst and cohost of...
Your Questions About Season 2
26 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Host Andrea Dunlop and lead producer Tina Nole dive into listener feedback from season 2 of Nobody Should Believe Me. Addressing questions of gender i...
S03 E05: The Women
19 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In the flattened version of the Maya Kowalski story that has dominated the headlines, Beata Kowalski is a mother who fell prey to age-old biases again...
S03 E04: Retaliation
12 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse and suicide. Listener discretion is advised. Beata Kowalski’s tragic death...
S03 E03: In a Heartbeat
05 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In our third episode, we look at a central piece of the story that was left unfinished at the time of Beata Kowalski’s death: the police investigati...
S03 E02: Shelter
28 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
As the Maya Kowalski case heads to trial, we dig into the massive trove of documents about this case and begin to unpack what we know about what reall...
S03 E01: Special Report: Watching Take Care of Maya (re-release)
21 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Warning: This content includes references to suicide and child abuse. If you or someone you know is having thoughts of suicide, help is available. Cal...
Unabridged Conversation with Leah McGowan
14 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In today's bonus episode, Andrea talks to family law attorney Leah McGowan about family and juvenile court and all of the many complications within th...
Unabridged Conversation with Bea Yorker
31 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In Andrea’s full conversation with law professor and nurse Bea Yorker, they discuss the complexities of medical child abuse, their work with survivo...
Unabridged Conversation with Dr. Carole Jenny
24 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In Andrea’s full conversation with renowned child abuse pediatrician, Dr. Carole Jenny they discuss Dr. Jenny’s fascinating history in the fie...
S02 Ep10: Everything Everything Everything
17 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In the finale of Season 2, we finally hear from the person at the center of our story: Alyssa Waybourn. Despite the immense challenges she has faced, ...
S02 Ep09: Pandora’s Box
10 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this gripping episode, we delve into the heart-wrenching account of Jordyn Hope, another survivor of medical child abuse. Taking a brief departure ...
S02 Ep08: Only the Beginning
03 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We return to Alyssa's story - In the aftermath of Brittany Philips' conviction, Alyssa faces a daunting new reality: the path to recovery. The long-te...
S02 Ep07: Megan
27 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In the wake of obtaining shocking public records about her sister’s case, host Andrea Dunlop decides to divulge the details of the second investigat...
S02 Ep06: The Trial
20 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Despite the undeniable evidence against Brittany, the verdict takes a shocking turn. Dawn Ferguson, the prosecutor on the case elucidates the challen...
NSBM Special Report: Watching Take Care of Maya
17 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We gather top experts Bea Yorker, Dr. Mary Sanders, Detective Mike Weber, and MBP survivor Jordyn Hope to discuss the Netflix documentary “Take Care...
S02 Ep05: Tangled
13 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The Waybourns face the daunting task of safeguarding Alyssa against Brittany's relentless attempts to pull her back into her web. We hear more about ...
S02 Ep07: Megan
11 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In the wake of obtaining shocking public records about her sister’s case, host Andrea Dunlop decides to divulge the details of the second investigat...
S02 Ep04: All In
06 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this season of Nobody Should Believe Me, we've heard from Sheriff Bill and Laura Waybourn about their concern for Alyssa- who was a distant family ...
S02 Ep03: Where There’s Smoke
29 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Detective Mike Weber dives into the digital rabbit hole of Brittany’s online activity and makes a discovery so shocking it turns his investigation o...
S02 Ep02: What do we do about Brittany?
22 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Heather Harris was one of many friends who was concerned about Brittany’s desperate need for attention for her daughter’s medical issues, and her ...
S02 Ep01: Blunt Force Instrument
15 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Everyone in Brittany Philips’ life was worried about her daughter, Alyssa. Brittany was always talking about her child’s health issues, and compla...
Alyssa's Story
08 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In Season 2, we head back to Tarrant County, Texas to explore the case of Brittany Phillips, a mother who medically abused her child in plain sight. F...
Bonus: Questions Answered
01 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this bonus episode my producer Tina Nole from Larj Media and I respond to some of the questions that came up about Season 1, break down a few myths...
Bonus: Unabridged conversation with Dr. Mary Sanders
18 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Listen to Andrea’s full conversation with Dr. Mary Sanders, director of child & adolescent psychology at Stanford and nationally recognized expert o...
Bonus: Unabridged conversation with Dr. Jayme Coffman
04 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Listen to Andrea’s full conversation with Dr. Jayme Coffman, the child abuse pediatrician who runs the CARE team at Cook Children’s Hospital in Ta...
Bonus: Unabridged Conversation with Dr. Marc Feldman
20 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In today's bonus episode, we share Andrea's unabridged conversation with Dr. Marc Feldman, one of the experts we heard from throughout season one of t...
Bonus: The Making Of
20 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Andrea and her Producer Tina at Larj Media talk about how the show came to be, the journey towards finding and talking with Hope Ybarra and what you c...
There's Hope (S1E8 - Season 1 Finale)
23 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Andrea has made an intense connection with Hope Ybarra's family, and asked experts, doctors, and the detective so many of her burning questions about ...
Can They Be Saved? (S1E7)
17 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Andrea delves deep into her questions around the psychopathology of Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators. Floored by the similarities in the many cases sh...
Sisters Surviving (S1E6)
10 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
As Andrea contemplates what the future looks like for survivors of Munchausen by Proxy, she gets an unexpected message from two young women who’ve l...
Bonus Episode: Meet Doug Welch
08 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Right before his story was released in episode five of NOBODY SHOULD BELIEVE ME, the father we referred to as “John” changed his mind about wantin...
Nobody Would Believe Me: Dads Part 2 (S1E5)
03 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting...
Nobody Would Believe Me: Dads Part 1 (S1E4)
27 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting...
What’s in the Water in Tarrant County? (S1E3)
20 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Andrea speaks to Deanna Boyd, the crime reporter who broke the Hope Ybarra case and discovers that Hope's was one of many Munchausen By Proxy cases in...
Who is Hope? (S1E2)
13 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
We delve deeper into the story of Hope Ybarra, a young mother whose family discovers she’s been faking her eight-year-long battle with terminal canc...
Sisters: Introduction (S1E1)
12 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
We meet accomplished novelist and loving mother Andrea Dunlop as she embarks on a journey to understand the series of events that tore her family apar...
Nobody Should Believe Me - Season 1 Trailer
29 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Novelist Andrea Dunlop is looking for answers. When her older sister was first investigated for Munchausen by Proxy abuse more than a decade ago, it t...