Dean Brown & Mick Kern for the Freson Bros. Friday Frenzy (9/25/26)
episodePreviously titled “Dean Brown & Mick Kern (9/25/26)” — renamed by the publisher on Sep 26, 2026
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What is the rivalry between Ottawa Senators and Toronto Maple Leafs and why does it matter?
Hey, it's Bob Stoffer. I just wanted to let you know that you can listen to Oilers Now ad-free on Amazon Music, included with Prime.
Our spotlight conversation for this hour will be with Mick Kern and Dean Brown. Coming up shortly. It's brought to you by Cowan Graphics, trusted for over 80 years to bring your brand to life. Proudly Canadian. Visit Cowan.ca today. We originally had Terry Koshan from the Toronto Sun on, but he had to uh back out of the segment with uh not a ton of time. But Cam Moon, an absolute legend, managed to get through to Mick Kern who uh works at Sirius XM, uh does league wide talk, but lives in Toronto, so we can still kind of keep this Toronto versus Ottawa angle going. Dean Brown, he's the play by play voice of the Ottawa Senators on TSN twelve hundred. Uh guys, I really appreciate you both taking the time to join me.
Uh how you doing today?
Uh doing fine so far.
Absolutely. There we go. Um obviously your two markets. Uh Mick, you're a little bit more of a league wide perspective. Um uh Dean, you know, you you're with the senators, but y uh uh Mick, you go to all the Toronto Maple Leafs games. How big is this battle of Ontario really? We'll start with you, Mick.
Well I'm I'm I'm great to ask 'cause I grew up a Habs fan, so you know, I and as Dean knows, I lived in Ottawa for like uh almost twenty years. It it's huge. It's big I I don't know, Dean might agree it's bigger in Ottawa 'cause Lee fans like to take over the arena and be and be obnoxious. But there are a lot of senator fans that show up in Toronto, whether they're there on business or they just live there because it is the you know the biggest city. So it's a it's a healthy contingent of SENS fans. Now the The game recently I don't put any stock in the the the two wins by the Leafs, uh six one win, I don't put any stock in that. But the Senator fans stay to the end. They do care and they're loud when uh when it's the regular season, when they're in town.
Yeah, for sure. Dean. Uh well I I th I think there's always going to be a rivalry with Toronto. They share the same province and uh you know, out outside of Toronto it is far more fashionable to hate the Leafs than love the Leafs.
How will the Toronto Maple Leafs perform in the Atlantic Division after their offseason changes?
Um but you but you can't get around the fact that the that the Leafs uh you know, you go to any rink in the league and there's gonna be Leaf fans there. It's uh it's a a worldwide phenomenon in many, many ways. So uh that's just a part of it. But the the actual uh you know, battle of Ontario from the players' perspective is really a non factor because these two teams really haven't been in a position um to reignite what was something that was very ferocious back in the day. And today's players, none of them were around or even old enough to watch and or know know about any of those games when it truly was the Battle of Ontario. I th I think it would take a couple of really mean spirited playoff series between the two teams for it to be
become that again as far as the players go. But I I think the fan bases are always going to hate each other. I I think that's just a um a normal thing amongst the fans. But from the from the players perspective, it it uh quite honestly is more of a media and a fan thing than it is a player thing because like I said, it's it's just stories to the players. They don't have anything to connect it to. And uh I I I would love to see a you know a couple of um years of research really nasty playoff series 'cause that's where you get you know, that's where you get the best rivalries because as we all know, um and I trademarked this uh twenty seven years ago, hate is good for hockey.
Yeah, that is pretty good. Um uh the Atlantic division. Uh, you know, Toronto's in it, the Ottawa Senators are in it, and the Florida Panthers and the Buffalo Sabres and the Montreal Canadians and so on and so on. The Atlantic has become such a competitive division over the last couple of seasons. Uh we'll start with Mick first. Mick, there was a lot of change in Toronto this offseason. Uh Darren Radish, you know, bringing him in, Sergey Babron.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the rivalry between Ottawa Senators and Toronto Maple Leafs and why does it matter?
0:00–2:04
2
How will the Toronto Maple Leafs perform in the Atlantic Division after their offseason changes?
2:04–4:23
3
What impact does losing Brady Kachuk have on the Ottawa Senators’ roster and strategy?
4:23–6:37
4
Why are goaltending and defensive metrics crucial for the Senators’ playoff chances?
6:37–8:27
5
Are younger players like Macklin Celebrini reshaping the NHL’s talent landscape?
8:27–10:30
6
How is the league’s approach to captaincy and leadership evolving with marketing and management influence?
10:30–12:51
7
What are the implications of the Connor Hellebuyck contract situation for the Jets and the NHL?
12:51–14:58
8
How do no‑move/no‑trade clauses affect player power and team decisions in today’s NHL?
14:58–16:58