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Future Hall of Famer Zack Martin In Studio, Week 8 Picks And Preview, NBA Gambling Controversy, Carson Wentz Horrible TNF + Fyre Fest Of The Week

24 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

0.031 - 20.402 Big Cat

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He actually told us at the end of the interview he's a day one AWL, so he's been listening for all nine years. We talk about Cowboys, his career, Dak Prescott, really, really cool dude. Great time hanging with him. We're going to do week... Eight picks and preview for every single game on Sunday. We have Jerry's Fantasy Minute. We have Firefest, big-time bummer by Hank.

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And we are going to talk about Thursday Night Football and maybe some issues in the NBA.

114.151 - 126.664 Unknown

Man, I'll tell you what. When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts. That's where Snickers comes in, man. That thing is packed.

126.644 - 152.196 Unknown

roasted peanuts nugget caramel milk chocolate it's like the mvp of candy bars and when you bite into it boom it sorts you out get your head back in the game of life satisfying your hunger remember this snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else snickers satisfies man that's a winning play okay let's go hey

152.783 - 157.41 Hank

Yeah.

Chapter 2: What are the implications of Carson Wentz's performance?

811.927 - 830.302 Big Cat

So the return on that... I guess if you have a wide enough network and you send a bunch of guys out to bet on it, you could make some money, but still it's, it's such a dumb thing for someone who gets paid so much money to do that. But you never know what the situation is where, you know, the mafia has been named in this, which shout out the mafia. I didn't know you guys were still doing it.

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830.322 - 834.651 Big Cat

I got a problem with not shout out, but kind of shout out, kind of shout out. Like, like, Respect.

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834.671 - 835.413 Zach Martin

I didn't know them off.

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835.433 - 848.624 Big Cat

Yeah, respect. Seeing Gambino, Bonino, and like, holy shit. Yeah, the five families. All right, you guys are still out there. Max, I had a problem with how they phrased that. Referred to them as the Italian Mafia. Not like that.

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849.065 - 851.729 Unknown

Yeah, it was. It was kind of cool seeing the Mafia publicity.

851.749 - 872.399 Big Cat

So what I was going to say, PFD, is yes, I agree it's very stupid, but you also don't know the situation some of these guys are in where a Terry Rozier, and this is all speculation at Chauncey Billups, they could be wrapped up in shit. They could be in debt. They could be in situations where they're trying to help someone out or help themselves out. Or protect themselves. Yeah.

872.419 - 889.289 Big Cat

And they're getting in a situation where they have to do this, where it's not just, oh, I'm just trying to make. Because, yeah, there's obviously people like, why would you do this if you're making millions of dollars and you're making, you know, 20K on a bet? It could be that they owe money to someone and they don't have money. The Chauncey Billups one.

889.489 - 908.77 Big Cat

So did you see, too, that apparently I saw a clip, a guy on a podcast two years ago. Yeah. Basically being like, yeah, Chauncey Billups has these card games and everyone knows that they're scams. Yeah. I don't know what the business model is, but I guess you get famous people to play in your card games and then they invite people to join you.

909.07 - 929.74 Big Cat

And then you take all their money and you're like, hey, this game's legit because we got Chauncey Billups playing in it. Yeah. And, of course, it can't be rigged. Now, when this happened, I was on Wake Up Barstool when the news broke. And my first reaction to it, I was like, I wonder if this has anything to do with Gilbert Arenas. Because he got arrested back in August for running a poker game.

Chapter 3: How are the Chargers performing with Joe Alt back?

977.373 - 996.796 Big Cat

It is – I don't know what they're going to do because, you know, the Donahue stuff still is a black eye for the NBA. Yeah. And the problem the NBA has that, you know, the reaction – there's obviously reactions. Everyone overreacts to these moments and goes way one way, way the other way.

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There's a lot of people like you got to – I saw one person maybe take of the year that legalized gambling is going to end all sports. Mm-hmm. That one, I would say, is a little overreaction. But the problem is with... Yeah, what is this? This seems possibly eventually gambling will eliminate professional sports. Okay, so eliminate all professional sports. I don't think that's going to happen.

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Now that gambling became a thing like four years ago. Yeah, right. The NBA, though, does have a problem in the fact that the NBA, unlike any other sport, you can affect a game a lot more with props. I mean, it's harder to affect a game in the NFL.

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MLB.

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MLB, yes, the pitchers, obviously, but you can't. Batters can't all of a sudden. I guess they could strike out. Yeah, you'd strike out a lot. It's not swing. But the NFL, it's a little bit more difficult. I also think in the NFL, you have a much higher likelihood of getting your ass kicked.

1051.327 - 1076.49 Big Cat

yeah but i mean what what could you do i guess you could quarterback's really the only one quarterback i guess you kick her kick her yeah you could hold her like yeah or you could hold if you're an offensive line no nfl is definitely the hardest right so but the nba definitely has an issue because these props are are you know guys if guys are are doing this stuff it's not great not great permission to put on my tinfoil hat yeah please

1077.314 - 1081.882 Big Cat

Who was at this press conference making the announcements? Who's the head of the FBI right now? I don't know. Kash Patel?

1082.042 - 1082.543 Zach Martin

Kash Patel.

1082.563 - 1106.325 Big Cat

Here we go. Absolutely right, Zach. Kash Patel, head of the FBI. He is a massive, massive hockey fan. Oh. He is the biggest NHL guy that you'll ever meet. Interesting. This guy, he like followed Ovi around last summer or last year. Interesting. He went to like every game. He plays in like a men's league hockey thing. He's like pounding beers in the parking lot after the games.

Chapter 4: What are the key factors influencing game predictions for Week 8?

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You can't expect that. Every single week. So I'm coming into this game very nervous that it could be a whomping. I'm hoping I'm wrong. I'm hoping Caleb plays his ass off. The Ravens have gotten healthier on defense. Kyle Hamilton, Roquan, a bunch of guys back. Marlon Humphrey, I think, was sick, but he's back. I'm nervous about this game. I'm bracing.

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I'm basically going into this game in a fetal position, ready for the worst, hoping for the best. Something good could happen. Yeah, Cooper Rush could play. Yeah, and if you don't win, then you were just right all along. Makes you feel good about yourself.

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Chapter 5: How do injuries impact team performance and predictions?

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I would... I'll probably take the Bears plus six and a half. This is a desperate team. This is the point in the season when you have desperate teams trying to win games and desperate teams. It's just a different animal. Is Cole Komet playing? I believe so, although our injury report was extensive on Wednesday. Yeah. Extensive. So, yeah, if Cole Komet doesn't play, could that be a good thing?

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It could. We haven't been targeting a lot of tight ends, period, because I know there's a cold war going on about the Bears passing on Tyler Warren. Tyler Warren's been awesome. Tyler Warren has had 45 targets. Colson Loveland has had 13.

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Chapter 6: What insights does Zack Martin share about his career and the Cowboys?

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So they're not being asked to do the same thing. I'm going to wait a little bit longer to say that that was a complete miss because when Colson Loveland has been asked to catch the ball, he's done some nice things. So... I don't think it'd be a good thing. I'm not saying that Cole Komet stinks. I'm just saying at least you know what you have in Colston.

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If you're forced to throw the ball to him a little bit. And this probably isn't the week for, like, let's see what we got in Colston Loveland. Yeah. This is the week for... Run the football. This is all hands on deck. Run the football. They haven't been able to stop the run. Run the football. Also, Marlon Humphrey's sickness. He tweeted the day before he was out of practice for an illness.

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4246.272 - 4267.263 Big Cat

He said, should I do a glizzy taste tour around the country one day? 50 states, 50 glizzies. He definitely was eating a hot dog when he said that. He definitely got sick from it. Yeah. He's had some bad food takes recently. Has he? I like that he's out there making tea. I do, too. I do, too. But this is what he said on October 20th. I guess this was the day before the glizzy taste test.

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Had to be said, but boneless wings are way better. I mean, they're chicken nuggets. I am not someone who goes against boneless wings because I do think there is a time and place for boneless wings, but they're not better. Yeah, wings are not boneless. Wings have bones in them. It's Big Nugget that's trying to make themselves seem like they're as cool as chicken wings.

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4290.859 - 4307.847 Big Cat

You'll never be as cool as chicken wings. Boneless buffalo wings, though, there is a time and place where it hits the spot where like, hey, I don't want to get messy. I don't want to have things in my teeth. I just want to have some buffalo sauce and some chicken. Yeah. In the easiest way possible. Still bones bone in or better. Those are wings. It's the mocktail of chicken.

4307.927 - 4308.088 Zach Martin

Yeah.

4308.108 - 4324.517 Big Cat

It's like, yeah, it's different. Just call it juice. I'm having juice. Sometimes you'd rather blowjob than sex. Yeah. You just sit back and just kind of just sit there. You don't have to do anything. That's boneless wings. That's boneless wings? That's boneless wings. You sit back. You don't have to do anything. I think blowjobs are way better than boneless wings.

4325.618 - 4327.741 Big Cat

Yeah, I'm just saying the analogy of like, you know.

4327.861 - 4328.682 Zach Martin

It's hard for me to.

Chapter 7: What insights does Zack Martin share about Dak Prescott's performance?

7767.003 - 7770.587 Hank

And unfortunately for us, it was like it piled up at the worst times. Yeah.

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Yeah, because I think that human nature part of, like, pro sports is always interesting to me because we think of it, oh, they're pros. Every week's going to be the same. It's like, no, they're still just regular human beings.

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7780.836 - 7796.57 Hank

Well, and also, like, the discrepancy, like, the teams are not that different talent-wise. Like, everyone's really good. So you catch a team that's like, oh, yeah, we should kill these guys. It's like, well, yeah, have you seen their defensive line, though? Like, we're in for a fucking meat grinder. Right. You know?

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7796.99 - 7805.498 Hank

So even the teams that aren't record-wise great, when you look on tape, you're like, damn, they got this guy, they got this guy. So you got to be on it every week. Yeah.

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Chapter 8: How does Zack Martin describe the challenges of being a Dallas Cowboys quarterback?

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It's such a thin margin. We've said a lot of things on the show about Dak Prescott. You might say we complimented him at times when we called him the 17th best quarterback. You might say we insulted him by calling him the 17th best quarterback. You played alongside Dak for many years. Can you tell us why we're wrong about Dak?

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7823.872 - 7827.439 Hank

I wish that Dak could come back on here and do the interview.

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7827.459 - 7828.28 Big Cat

It had a lot to do with that.

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7829.322 - 7846.014 Hank

Honestly, and this is nothing against you guys, but I don't think he knew you guys at all when he came on the interview. Which was fair, because it was early on. Yeah, and I don't think he knew the shtick or anything, so I listened to it, and knowing him, I'm sure he's just like, what the fuck are these guys asking me? Yeah. So I think if you had him on now, it'd be a lot different.

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7846.034 - 7852.426 Hank

Do you think he'd be open to coming back on? Do you think he doesn't like us? I don't know if you guys have helped a chance. No, probably not. Definitely not.

7852.446 - 7854.971 Big Cat

Well, we have said that we've, we said this season that.

7854.991 - 7856.274 Hank

Oh, he's playing awesome.

7856.294 - 7859.56 Big Cat

He should be in the, definitely in the MVP conversation, if not leading.

7859.58 - 7873.423 Hank

Well, and I also want to come back because he's like, he is the best. Like, he is the absolute best. You would love him if he got to sit down here and just shoot the shit, and he knew kind of what was going on. But he is – guys in that building play for that guy. Yeah. I'm telling you.

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