5 On It & Julia Poe explains how Bulls are relying on luck (Hour 3)

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What are the Bulls' recent trade moves and their implications?

Unknown 0:01
This hour is brought to you by Vasectomy Clinics of Chicago. The NBA trade deadline is today at 2, but it seems like a bulk of the Bulls' moves are obviously done. If that is indeed the case, and Artur is kind of showing us in company, Stan, Pat, the rest of the way, what letter grade are you giving the Bulls for their moves? Marshall loves that question. Take it away, Marshall. Professor Marshall, what grade are you giving the Bulls? If they don't do another move after this to where they are right now, they're getting a D+. They're getting a D+. Here's why they're getting a D+. They're getting a D+, because if you look at their roster as it's currently constructed right now, and Billy Donovan doing what he does, they're going to win more games.
Marshall Harris 1:03
They're going to win too many games to tank, is what you're saying.
Unknown 1:07
Not just too many games to tank, but also explain to me what they're going to have at the end of the season when all the contracts that they traded away, they're expiring contracts for, also expire. I'm looking at you, Anthony Simons. I'm looking at you, Colin Sexton.

How are the Bulls graded for their trade deadline decisions?

Marshall Harris 1:25
They gave Josh Giddey more money because they wanted to.
Unknown 1:31
True, true. I don't have as much problem with Giddey as some people do because it's still $25 million for your lead point guard who's going to average close to a triple-double regardless of who you put around him. That's just who he is. And I know the defensive liability is there. The problem is... If you still have Jalen Smith starting at center, if you still have Isaac Okoro and Matis Bouzelis, if you still have fill in the blank with whoever you want to put beside Josh Giddey, you're going to be okay. And in a world where there's already 10 or 10 to 12 other teams tanking way harder than you, you're going to come up with wins that you don't want to come up with.
Marshall Harris 2:08
Well, that's it. It's that they can tank for the Bulls, but tanking for the Bulls is not necessarily tanking as to what it looks like for the rest of the league. Keep in mind, an Achilles injury has made the team that nearly won the NBA Finals in the Pacers now one of the worst teams in the league. That's what you're up against when it comes to losing and trying to do this in a way that gives you the better chance. The saddest part is what it came down to last time, which was the coin flip for the first overall pick, and it went to the Mavericks because of the tiebreakers. That's the saddest part. Do you think the Bulls are going to get any closer to that chance again?

What does Julia Poe think about the Bulls' reliance on luck?

Unknown 2:51
You know what's sadder than that? If the Bulls had won that tiebreaker and if they had picked Cooper Flagg, do you still trust Arturis Karnaschovas and Mark Eversley to make the moves to surround that young core with players good enough to properly develop him?
Marshall Harris 3:05
Yeah, because they had Jokic in Denver and AK was the assistant GM. If you've got the star of all stars, if you've got that guy, then life becomes infinitely easier in the league.
Unknown 3:16
I don't know that I trust them to make the right moves. Concerning these same players we're talking about, Kobe White, Iota Sumu, Vooch, does Vooch get moved? Are we dealing with the same type of deadline? That's my point.
Marshall Harris 3:27
No, they probably try to win now based on that group.
Unknown 3:30
Exactly, and that would have been a mistake with that group. That's the problem. Vooch is old. He cannot play defense. You've got to have a team like the Celtics with all these defenders to be able to build a championship. We're talking about championship, not just get into the playoffs.

How might the Bulls' trades impact their future?

Marshall Harris 3:44
But you're also talking about the difference of four months when you consider that Vooch's contract was up at the end of the year. You're assuming that Vooch would have been extended in that scenario.
Unknown 3:55
Oh, I hope not.
Marshall Harris 3:57
But you see what I'm saying? His contract was up anyway.
Unknown 4:00
Yeah, but you still should get something for him. That's all I'm saying. So what Dallas is doing right now with Cooper Flagg is perfect. They're letting him go out there and do all the things. You know what else they're doing? They're losing, so they're going to have somebody else to put beside him this coming offseason.

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