Savage Love Episode 1038
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How did the fight for marriage equality begin, and what does it mean to support LGBTQ voters today?
You're listening to the Savage Lovecast, Dan Savage's sex and relationship show for grown-ups. If you're under eighteen, get out of here, youngin.
If you're stuck in a relationship quandary, or if you're looking for sexual harmony. Well there's nothing you can have. I'm the savage podcast.
I've been listening to show tunes. Probably not a surprise. I'm always listening to show tunes. But there's one show, one tune from one show, that I've been listening to a lot lately.
I wanna walk down the aisle on an island and say vows with lots of ahoo-evows where tropical wedding showers bring gifts of his and his matching towels. I wanna see all our friends and family on a beach by Hanalei Bay. They're all gonna fly in. for our Hawaiian wedding day.
My mom is a big thing. That's Hawaiian Wedding Song from Howard Crabtree's When Pigs Fly. Music by Dick Gallagher, lyrics by Mark Waldrop, sung here, the original cast recording, by the amazing actor, singer, comedian Michael West. When Pigs Fly was an off-Broadway musical review, a hit Off-Broadway musical review that opened at the Douglas Fairbanks Theater on August 15, 1996. The show is, as the first number puts it, a great big party schmorg is board with a generous helping of Ham. Howard Crabtree, the show's co-creator, really the inspiration for the show, was this insanely talented, absolutely demented gay costume designer. The show was so much fun. And we really needed something fun in the summer of nineteen ninety six when gay men were still dying of AIDS in ever growing numbers.
I've been thinking about Hawaiian Wedding Song and the moment in time it captured. Because we were so close to winning marriage equality in our first state in nineteen ninety six, so close we could taste it, so close we were writing show tunes about it. Every gay couple I knew in nineteen ninety six and nineteen ninety five and nineteen ninety four and three. Was fantasizing about flying off to Hawaii To get married, legally married. Every gay couple I knew in nineteen ninety six was fantasizing about flying to Hawaii to get married. Backing up the marriage equality movement. Began in Hawaii in nineteen ninety when three gay couples applied for marriage licenses and then sued when they were denied. In nineteen ninety three
The Hawaii Supreme Court ruled that same sex couples in Hawaii had a constitutional right to marry. That decision was put on hold while the state appealed, and we were still waiting on that decision, the final decision. When Howard Crabtree died of AIDS in July of nineteen ninety six, His final show, Howard Crabtree's When Pigs Fly, his name is in the title. There's a character in the show named Howard Crabtree. His last show, opened a month after his death, to rave reviews. Before jumping ahead to 2008, and I promise you we will get to 2026 just as quickly as we can here, I want to pause to talk about exactly how the marriage equality movement got started. It wasn't national gay organizations hoping to cash in
The big gay organizations wanted nothing to do with gay marriage and offered no help to these three gay couples. And it wasn't About gay men looking for an excuse to throw a party. Gay men have never needed an excuse to throw a party. The movement for gay marriage began because in nineteen ninety Every gay man either knew or was one degree of separation from the A gay couple where one man got sick and then the homophobic family members of the dying man Estranged parents, estranged siblings showed up at the hospital and had their dying child or brother's boyfriend, their partner, their husband in everything but name, Barred from the hospital, removed from the room. In some cases, homophobic family members
Wouldn't tell their child's partner That his lover of many years had died, or where the funeral was, or even where the body was buried. Men who had been with their Husbands and everything but name for 10, 20, 30 years weren't allowed to say goodbye or even grieve privately at a gravesite. And this emotional violence was possible. Because two men couldn't get married.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
How did the fight for marriage equality begin, and what does it mean to support LGBTQ voters today?
0:00–8:59
2
Is ear porn a real fetish, and how do people enjoy ear play safely?
8:59–14:47
3
What should you know before using a free gay bathhouse membership?
14:47–20:09
4
How can roommates set boundaries before having a threesome with the same Dom?
20:09–24:47
5
Are teeth supposed to be used during oral sex?
24:47–30:42
6
Why does the Richard Gere gerbil rumor persist, and how did AIDS-era stigma fuel it?
30:42–40:25
7
Should you ask your fiancée to continue painful tattoo removal from her previous marriage?
40:25–44:53
8
What did listeners say about grapefruiting and other sex questions?
44:53–56:16