Doing Politics Differently (with Phil Wang and Pierre Novellie)
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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How does Andy Burnham propose to do politics differently?
Hello and welcome to Strong Message Here from BBC Radio 4, a guide to the use and abuse of political language. I'm Phil Wang, standing in for Armando this week, who is still under the weather, unfortunately. Just think of me as Keir Starmer. Technically in charge this week, but without any real authority. A caretaker host, if you will. And I'm also going to be authorising £5 billion of the show's budget on drones before I'm kicked out. And this week I'm joined by comedian Pierre Novelli. Hello, Pierre. Hello, it's good to be the replacement for Italian who isn't Italian, so name Italian guy. Oh, yes, of course.
What does 'place first, not party first' mean in politics?
At least the Italian contingency is maintained. Yeah. Absolutely. This is how we make decisions here. And now the phrase we're going to be looking at this week is doing politics differently. Andy Burnham has promised it. So we'll look at his language, the language of people who tried it before, and those who are keen to do it the same old way instead. Thank you very much. So the main topic of this week's discussion is, unsurprisingly, Andy Burnham's big speech in in which he said, I'm going to do things differently. I'm going to break with the more of the same approach that has got us here. He then went into more detail, speaking of a new politics based on the exact opposite of the Westminster approach.
Place first, not party first. Problem solving, not point scoring. Long term, not short term. First off, I feel like place first, not party first, really goes to the core of Andy Burnham's projected persona, right? He is the guy next door. He's the man down the pub. You know, Starmer would probably say country before party, as is a present of this sentiment, which sounds kind of hoity-toity in comparison to place first.
Why do politicians struggle with personal questions like favorite biscuits?
Place first, not party first. I mean, that's really simplifying the language. Place first is very, well, you and I have often discussed in our lives that kind of new way of marketing things. Eat good, you know. Yes, right. It is like an advert for yogurt. Place first. Place first. What? You know, the place that you are. Vote you're happy. Vote you're happy. Happy you're local. Government you're glad. Yet maybe that's the kind of marketing speech Andy Burnham's going for here. Yeah, I think so. And no word from Burnham as yet about what will happen when one place wants to be first ahead of another place. Yes, exactly. I feel like this plan is going to break down pretty soon on contact with reality. Because the idea that my place comes first isn't really a new concept.
How does Kemi Badenoch's approach differ from Burnham's?
It's actually got us into a lot of problems. It's a brave new idea. That people are self-interested in a geographical way. It's very strange. It's groundbreaking stuff. It's a whole new politics, Pierre. It's a kind of localizing of... of government and of power in the uk to the extent that he's announced number 10 north a second number 10 in in manchester i presume number 10 2 this time is northern the overflow campus right yeah ah i find it does not number 10 north i mean it could be a great idea but it does sound a lot like a stop on the long train service slow train number 10 number 10 north Number 10 common. Number 10 on the wold. Look, I mean, back when regional councils were really rich and could borrow money and were powerful, and there was that brief sort of 20-year period in the late 1800s when the North was richer than the South in England.
And that's why you go around Bradford and all these mill towns. Their town centers look like a kind of goth version of Rome. I mean, they're incredible towns. Huge pillars and town halls and the mayoralty and wow. And so devolving financial power to the regents back then would have been a great idea. But now it seems to be the message is we're going to devolve power to the regions, but all the money will still just have to come from London, obviously, because there's no other money.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:53
2
How does Andy Burnham propose to do politics differently?
0:53–1:28
3
What does 'place first, not party first' mean in politics?
1:28–2:39
4
Why do politicians struggle with personal questions like favorite biscuits?
2:39–3:33
5
How does Kemi Badenoch's approach differ from Burnham's?
3:33–5:14
6
What insights are shared about America's 250th celebrations?
5:14–6:12
7
How does the podcast critique the language of political promises?
6:12–7:06
8
What humorous anecdotes do the hosts share about political language?
7:06–40:19