From their homes, Kareem and Joyelle also discuss White spicy, Black Las Vegas, Kareem v. Karim v. Krem, Oprah v. Orpah, being North African American, Italians are white, everyone should be forced to work as a server for a while, omakase, eating everything with chopsticks, all men wishing they were standup comedians, rawdogging life with no therapy, being head of social media for the Army, monoculture, how most coffee shops are bad now, calling your mom a b*tch and other stuff. Host: Kareem Rahma Creators: Kareem Rahma and Andrew Kuo Editor and Sound Producer: Dale Eisinger Artwork: Andrew Lawandus Theme Music: Tyler McCauley Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the spicy take Joyelle brings up?
And you can stream her special Lovejoy on Peacock today. She came through with an unbelievably spicy take. And I'm not talking white spicy. I'm talking black spicy. Level 10 Thai spicy. Like hurt your mouth, burn your mouth spicy. Which is bring back segregation. Play the take.
So what's your take? Bring back segregation. 100% disagree. Dead act.
Chapter 2: What are the implications of bringing back segregation?
Bring it back. I want to know where I'm not welcome, OK? Put them signs back up. Colors only, whites only. Let's do it, all right? Rip the Band-Aid off. Especially for a restaurant. Are you kidding me? Whites only? What do I want to do in there? What they got? Mashed potatoes? Mayonnaise hot dogs? Colors only, we got seasoning, turmeric, paprika.
OK, I like this. OK. You were saying that the black excellence. Absolutely.
The segregation is to get the.
The colored excellence.
OK.
OK, what's the playlist in the whites only spot? They playing Carrie Underwood and Kid Rock. We playing Babyface and Diggable Planets. Ain't no overhead lighting. What are you talking about? Wait, where am I going? colors.
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Chapter 3: How do cultural backgrounds influence perspectives on food?
Hell yeah.
Look at his hair. Talk about where am I going?
That's the problem with North Africans. That's what I'm talking about. Hell yeah. I'm in. 100% agree. Let's go.
Talk about where I'm going.
What happens to you in the summertime? Where are we putting the Italians? Listen. I don't need they food. I don't like tomatoes. So they're going on the white side. Black people spend over a trillion dollars a year. I would love for the government to force us to spend it on our own people. This is very good. I like this a lot. I brought you over to the side. And the black airplane? Oh, come on.
The soul plane, baby. I want to be on soul plane. Yes. It's going to be noisy on there, but that's what noise cancellation headphones are for.
You know what I'm saying?
And they're going to have all the good movies? All the good movies. All the good music. Oh, man.
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Chapter 4: What is the role of Black excellence in the conversation?
And while we at it, bring back sundown towns. They never left, but... What's up? Well, a sundown town was back in the day during Jim Crow where black people weren't allowed to be in a town after the sunset.
Wow.
So those towns never left. They still exist in America, but they took the signs down. I want them to put the signs back up. I wanted to say 248 miles to the next town that likes colored people. Get your gas in Atlanta. Don't stop till you get to Savannah, all right? I'm with her. He with me.
And we're back. Joyelle, what the hell's going on?
How you doing? I like that Asian reference because my boyfriend is half Taiwanese. So I'm like a Sichuan pepper with the Subway take.
Well, sometimes they make it too hot. The Asians make it too hot.
Yeah. And then you're sweating and my palms are itching for some reason.
Well, I sometimes go to a Thai restaurant and they're like, do you want it spicy? And I'm like, I'll take it white spicy.
Mm hmm.
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Chapter 5: How does personal experience shape views on race and identity?
But only in Brooklyn. They have tunnels in Brooklyn, but we have them in occupied lands. Well, that's actually a great segue to the take, which is bring back segregation. Bring it back. And I 100% disagreed, but you made some really good points, and I changed my mind when you said I belong in the...
in the uh colored people's club yeah that was my master plan um before i got on the show i watched every single episode and you only like disagreed in the beginning for like five of them yeah then the person got you on on their side and i was like this is what i want to happen and it was fantastic i really appreciate you hearing me out on that one because it was a crazy takeoff
It's an extremely rare case where I get my mind changed. I think you're right. Like, it's happened maybe five times because I only have one option to say 100% agree, 100% disagree. That one I obviously, without knowing what you were going to say, was like, I'm not dying on this. This is not where I'm going to – this is not where Kareem Rahma, like, ends. RIP. Bring back segregation. 100% agree.
Yes, let's do it.
Yeah.
But what's crazy is you had a lot of support. I mean, I thought that the racists and the haters and just like kind of the people that don't get humor were just going to be in the comments being like, you know, send her to the fucking gulag or whatever. But it was supportive. It was mostly people like people got the joke and they also understood the
the undertone of what you were saying, which is this kind of black excellence, kind of we got the best stuff. I'm saying we because I'm in the club based on what you told me.
You in the club. Whether you like it or not with that name.
I want to be in it. I want to be in it. Put me in the club. With the hair and the name, I belong in the club.
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Chapter 6: What are the perspectives on reparations?
Yeah. So by the time my generation came, we were like that next generation of people that had to go to school amongst mostly white faces. And honestly, it was stressful. It was stressful.
You're ready to undo it.
I would love to undo it. I read Quinta Brunson's book. Quinta, shout out to Quinta. She went to school her whole entire childhood with Black people, learning from Black teachers, and that gave her confidence. That allowed her to do everything that she's doing right now because she's had the confidence in her complexion from a very young age.
When I was going to school with white people, I had to get coached the first time I got my hair braided. Because they were like, look, you're going to go to school and the white girls are going to try to touch your hair. These are my big cousins telling me. They're like, what do you say if a white person has to touch your hair? I was like, mind your business and get away from me.
They were like, OK, calm down. They said, say it a little nicer. And I was literally like six years old and I had to know about racism that early and discrimination and all that stuff. That's a lot for a six year old. And also I got to learn math.
At the same time that I'm learning about all of the trauma that has happened to my, what is it, bloodline or my race, whatever. I don't know what the word is at the same time. But when you frame it that way, it sounds so jarring. But actually, I feel like it would actually set Black people up for an incredible kind of second chapter of their life. Like all of a sudden...
Maybe you go to college at Howard University, which Ta-Nehisi Coates has said is literally a utopia. It's where his entire worldview was shaped. And he's obviously an incredibly brilliant writer and thinker and intellectual. And I think that there is something to be said, even if there is...
If you're not going to segregate the schools, that there is a program or something that is like African American Studies and it's in elementary school and it's setting you... Like, maybe it's just a sidetrack that is like, here's what happened and here's what you need to know about growing up Black in America.
Yeah. I mean, also, I just feel like... Everyone needs to learn about all history, you know, and history is vast. White people need to learn about Black history too. We need to learn about all the things that are happening. But when you allow the peace, because school's stressful. You're going to get bullied. I was bullied. I was bullied relentlessly.
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Chapter 7: How do humor and race intersect in the podcast?
Let's jerk each other off and race horses or play polo or whatever the rich do.
Yes, exactly.
So you think that Black History Month is not enough? Oh, absolutely not. I'm making a joke. The month?
It should just be a week. They should make it a week again.
I think it should be a day. Yeah. Black History Day, you know, moving on.
24 hours.
Moving on.
Yeah, it's such a ridiculous thing that that is Black History Month, and they're always like, Martin Luther King, Martin Luther King, Martin Luther King. They don't mention Malcolm X. No, they don't. Not in the white schools, you know.
Well, and at this point, Black History Month is literally like, hey, Sprite is on sale. Or like, here's a new ad for Nike featuring some black people.
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Chapter 8: Why is omakase significant in their discussion?
I know. That's what I'm saying. It's possible.
Took it from people. So it's possible. Y'all have experimented on it.
Throw black people a couple of casinos.
Oh, come on. Give me. Just give us Brooklyn, Atlanta, Chicago.
Imagine if they were like, if that was the deal, those just like we're just doing casinos like they did with Native Americans. There's like, let's give you some. Imagine the black casino.
That would actually be popping.
Or Black Vegas. I mean that. Black Vegas is, that's Wakanda. That's Wakanda 2.
Wakanda part 2. Wakanda 2.0 B through C is the Black Vegas. Are you a gambler?
Um, let's just say I dabble in it.
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