Big Tech’s Most Valuable Product Isn’t AI. It’s the Belief that AI is Inevitable - The Story
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Welcome to Tech Stuff. I'm Oz Veloshin. If you've been listening to this podcast or if you spend any time on the internet, you won't be able to miss the word in-shitification. And our guest today is the man who coined it, Corey Doctorow. He's a science fiction author, a technology activist, and a journalist. His new book is called The Reverse Centaur's Guide to Life After AI, How to Think About Artificial Intelligence Before It's Too Late. Corey, welcome to Tech Stuff. Thanks, Oz. It's a pleasure to be on. For anyone who did miss it, what is digitification?
Well, I've worked for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which is an NGO, for 25 years on the question of digital rights. And getting people to engage with that question is very hard because digital rights questions are abstract and technical and relate to things that are going to happen in the future. And for very good reasons, people mostly care about concrete things happening right now. And... What I have done over the years is come up with different framing devices and similes and metaphors and narratives, too. I'm a science fiction novelist. But it turned out that a dirty word, enchidification, was the way to get people to engage in it. And so, more specifically, enchidification is this... theory and description it describes how the platforms that we rely on have turned into piles of shit where where first they are good to their end users but lock them in and then having locked in the end users and made it difficult for them to leave they make it worse for them to make it tempting for businesses and then when the businesses are also locked in they also extract everything they can from those businesses and line their own pockets and turn into a pile of shit
But the more interesting part of it is why they're doing it. And this maybe relates to the conversation we're having today, which is about the economics and political economy of monopoly. That when you let firms get too big to fail, they become too big to jail.
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4 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–12:00
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What is enshittification and how did Cory Doctorow coin it?
12:00–24:42
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How does monopoly economics explain tech firms' drive to claim AI is inevitable?
24:42–30:25
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Why do companies need perpetual growth and how does that create a 'reverse centaur' narrative?
30:25–47:39
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