A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
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What is the episode about?
On today's episode of That Was Us, we will be discussing Season 2, Episode 13. That'll be the day. Kevin helps Randall and Beth with repairs on their new venture. Kate contemplates a surprise for Toby. Jack and Rebecca talk about starting a business together.
Hello.
What up, gang? Dramatic.
That was a dramatic reading.
That'll be the day, with a little bit of foreshadowing there, right? That's right. This will be the day. This is the day. This is the day.
For the rest of their lives.
Not the episode, but it is the day and the precursor to... The episode. The episode, right? The day the audience would not...
Shut up about it.
Shut up about it.
So by this time, the audience knows that we're going to be on after the Super Bowl, right? Which is the following week. Was it actually on? No, it was on Tuesday, obviously. It was Sunday. What have you. So then we had two episodes in that week. Is that how it went? I believe so, yes. We had Tuesday, then Sunday. Yes. Right. So now folks are getting, the pump has been primed. so to speak. At the end of the last episode, we saw the smoke detector battery was not present. That's right. We open up on this episode and there's this delightful elder couple in their garage talking about how they're about to sell their home, going through their things and saying like, you know what? We got to get rid of some of this stuff. We can't keep it all. We'll get a new place. We'll have new things.
What are their names? George and Sally? George and Sally. They're so good. Yeah. Like George and Sally made me dream about being an older couple. I was like, I want to have that level of playfulness and just familiarity. Like, I feel like those actors must've known each other, but if they didn't, man, did they just kill the idea that like they've been together forever?
Yes, and Jack McGee plays George. Yes. And Jane Daly plays Sally. Jack and Jane. And again, two more legends to the This Is Us cast roster. I think Jack, wasn't Jack McGee a good friend of Dan's?
I believe so.
A personal friend of Dan's from some other project.
That sounds right.
And in the long run, after all of this was said and done, Jack...
Got a lot of blame.
Jack got a lot. Remember? Well, we'll get to that. Yeah.
Just remember we said that.
Yeah. Jack was like, Dan, what'd you do to me?
It's not what he signed up for. Yeah.
I thought I was just being friendly neighbor.
It's Super Bowl Sunday.
It's Super Bowl Sunday.
The chili is on. Jack and Rebecca clearly have their sort of traditions, which is chili on Super Bowl. They do shots, except this year it's orange juice and not vodka.
Correct. You talk a lot about the chili.
A lot about the chili. Chili's good.
To be clear as to what chili gets cooked in.
Yeah. Again, let's clock that for later.
There's also, like Jack said at the end of the last episode, like he wanted to start big three houses, right? And you're like, okay. And then he says like, well, maybe I don't just quit the job completely. He's going through the paper. Maybe I can start with a few flips and that'll be a good way to sort of ease my way into it. You know, kids are about to go off to college. Maybe I'll just upend everything, right? And you're like, yeah. It's a good idea. Not so bad, right?
Sure. This is the last Super Bowl with the kids too. So there's a lot, the big deal being made about that. This clearly is like a huge event in the Pearson household. It's something that kind of collectively do all together as a family every year. And the fact that this is the last one before everybody flies away is, you know, the parents are feeling that.
Hand me the hat. Can you reach it? Yeah, I can reach it. We'll put it out front. So there it is.
Big three homes. Big three. This reminds me too, as I have a teenager in the house and a nine year old, that Jack and Rebecca were not, in this particular moment, if things would have gone according to plan, they don't get a chance to gradually become empty nesters. Right, all at once. All three of them have their own angsty version of teenage or angsty version of sort of like leaving and cleaving, separating, finding their own identity that is separate and distinct from their parents. Yes. Even though Randall still like probably like holds on like the tightest, but that you get, you don't get a chance to like, oh, one's gone. I still got these two. No, all at once.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the episode about?
0:12–8:12
2
What are the key moments in Kevin's storyline?
8:12–19:51
3
How does Randall's experience as a landlord turn out?
19:51–29:42
4
What unexpected surprises happen at the dog shelter?
29:42–37:12
5
What emotional themes are explored in this episode?
37:12–51:43
6
How do the characters deal with change and growth?
51:43–1:12:58
7
What are the memorable quotes from this episode?
1:12:58–1:26:40