Bill Kristol and Jared Polis: Send In the Clown

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Tim Miller 0:08
Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. It is Monday, February 24th. We are in the Upside Down. One of my competitors in the podcasting space, the borderline literate Dan Bongino, is taking over as the Deputy Director of the FBI. So that is our big news item for this Monday, and I'm happy to be here with Bill Kristol to discuss it. How are you doing, Bill?
Bill Kristol 0:30
I'm fine, Tim. Yeah, I don't really follow Dan Bongino that much. I said in Morning Shots that I thought he was one of the more clownish of the Trumpists. Was that unfair?
Tim Miller 0:38
No, that is not unfair. And we're about to just listen to a little clip from him that's going to show it. And we're going to get into more in the second part of this podcast. I interviewed Jared Polis at the principal's first conference, which ended up having a lot of drama and fireworks, more so in the past five years. So we'll get to that in a minute. But first up, let's test your theory that Pongino is one of the more clownish Trumpists. And listen to a clip from his podcast.
Dan Bongino 1:03
Anything that matters is what? Chat, what matters? Anyone? You can see what I'm talking about. Power. That is all that matters. No, it doesn't, Dan. We have a system of checks and balances. That's a good one. That's really funny.
Tim Miller 1:26
That is really funny, having checks and balances. And then I've got another tweet for you that he sent recently. The irony about this for the scumbag commie libs is that the cold civil war they're pushing for will end really badly for them. Libs are the biggest pussies I've ever seen, and they use others to do their dirty work. But they're not ready for what comes next. They never have been. You assholes wanted it. Now you've got it. Good luck. Does that seem like the temperament for somebody that we'd want for the number two slot at the Federal Bureau of Investigation?
Bill Kristol 2:01
Yeah, it's wonderful. I hadn't heard that clip. That's pretty amazing, actually. Yeah, I mean, checks and balances, all that stuff, law, rule of law. So yesterday, really, you know, for Dan. I mean, I say in the morning, he's clownish, not much about him, but I will defend myself in a sense by saying that I also mentioned that Charlie Sykes used to love to say that, still says, that clowns with flamethrowers can do a lot of damage. And that's the situation we're in, right? Some of them are more purposeful, some of them are more just loudmouths and clownish, and they're all committed to doing a huge amount of damage to our institutions and to our system. Yeah.
Tim Miller 2:37
Yeah, I mean, Dan is kind of dumb. You know, when I do my MAGA research for all of you, I'm like, listen to MAGA shows. I tried to listen to his and I couldn't because, and it's literally like listening to somebody with a fourth grade reading level doing the news. And so I just, you know, I needed to at least be challenged and have my brain be moving a little bit, which every once in a while, Bannon or Candice or one of the Patrick Bette, one of these other people will at least say, get my brainwaves moving a little bit. Dan Bongino was unable to do that. So I didn't listen to a lot of him, but no, he's a total hack. He seems unstable emotionally. One of the reporters tweeted like an email that he had sent him recently calling him a dipshit and making fun of the shape of his head. You know, I mean like this kind of really, really childish stuff. You can see just like when you watch him, like his temperament is just the opposite of even keel and, He doesn't know his way around the building.
Tim Miller 3:35
I received a text this morning from somebody that said that the top two people now have no idea how the FBI works. They don't know the rules and the policies that make the place work. They're fired and forced to retire with people one to two levels down. All of that combined makes for a pretty, I think, ominous setup. I think the best case scenario is that they are You know, that it's just like a comedy of errors. But that's probably helped him at this point.
Bill Kristol 4:03
It could be. I fight these two different interpretations in my own mind. One, there's such clowns, it's all going to blow up and they'll do some damage. But its institutions are somewhat deep. They may not have enough time to do huge amounts of damage in a way that Trump will suffer when they all make obvious mistakes and do things that even...

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