Jim Acosta: Trump Can't Take the Heat
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What is the significance of Trump's relationship with the press?
Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Many of you have been asking, what can I do? What can I do? All right. In segment two, we're going to talk about a tangible thing I think people should be looking at doing to combat Trump's threats to our Democratic Republic. But up first, former chief White House correspondent for CNN. He's now an independent journalist and host of the Jim Acosta show on Substack. It's Jim Acosta. How you doing, bro?
Hey, Tim. Good to see you again.
I am kind of of the view that these things, even when it's not Trump, are basically pointless in the modern era and they have very little impact. So I'm wondering what your assessment is of that and if there's anything you saw last night that you think might matter, even on the margins.
Yeah, I did a Substack right after the speech was over with Michael Fanone. And Mike says to me, he goes, Jim, I love you, but fuck you for making me watch that. And I said, that's fair. I said, honestly, that's fair. I mean, it was a bullshit-a-palooza. I mean, this is what we expect from Trump now. And I kind of agree with you, Tim. I think this thing has just turned into, you know, hee-haw. I mean, I think the next president would be well-served to just do it from the Oval Office or like, what did they say in the olden days? You would just like send a letter down on a horse down Pennsylvania Avenue.
Yeah, just send the letter. That's where I'm at. It kind of annoys me. I don't know. This is maybe a meta commentary about the media, but just like the pomp and circumstance of it all. I mean, we're here in Trump 2.0. I mean, he didn't obviously respect any of the traditions, right? You know, at any point, it's like, why should we continue to have respect for it? It's like, oh, and they're kind of there's the first lady and she looks beautiful today. And here comes the cabinet. I don't know. The whole thing is just kind of like to me, it's like this is from another era and it's a fake. It feels fake, I guess.
It is. And I loved hearing from the people last night who were saying, can you believe Congressman Green and what he did? And, you know, after Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert and their antics from whatever last year or the year before, every year for that matter. And Joe Wilson, you lie from when Obama was president. I mean, honestly, when Donald Trump is up there and he's referring to Elizabeth Warren as Pocahontas, why is anybody getting their knickers in a bunch over Obama? you know, what the decorum is of this ceremony. It's just complete bedlam at this point.
This is where I'm on the Fetterman side. I'm a rare person on the Fetterman side. I'm like, just wear sweatpants to the program if this is what you're going to do. No sense putting on your suit for this. a couple of minor things I think that is just worth mentioning because they could have some impact Trump said that Elon Musk is his shadow president heads up doge and then there's a big love very lengthy applause on the Republican side for Elon who kind of stood above like a Vita waving down on everybody and There's already been a filing with the courts about this because, as you know, the White House technically says that Amy Gleason, a woman that lives in Tennessee, is really running Doge. And so, again, I think they're possibly making themselves vulnerable to legal ramifications as far as getting these cuts through. So maybe a minor impact in that last night. I don't know.
What do you think about that? And, Yvonne, broadly?
Yeah, this is like the usual suspects. Who is Kaiser Soze? And who is this lady from Tennessee that's heading up Doge? I mean, but this just goes to, and Tim, I saw this the first time around when I covered Trump and Trump 1.0. I mean, you know, one of the things that folks should keep in mind as a saving grace and all of this is silver lining is the sheer incompetence that the Trump team brings to just about everything that they do. And the Doge project is no different. I mean, yes, it's led by the world's richest man. And he's built these successful companies to some extent. And, you know.
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