Kara Swisher: The Tech Bros Should Just Shut Up

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Tim Miller 1:13
Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back to the show, co-host of Pivot, host of On with Kara Swisher, creator of the CNN original series, Kara Swisher Wants to Live Forever. The only person producing more content than me, it's Kara Swisher.
Kara Swisher 1:26
What's up? We are funny that way, aren't we?
Tim Miller 1:30
We are.
Kara Swisher 1:30
We are. We love content.
Tim Miller 1:31
We should do less, probably.
Kara Swisher 1:33
No, no. More. More. Yes, I don't feel like there's enough of us out there.
Tim Miller 1:36
Okay. I agree with that. Yeah, JBL was suggesting we do a spinoff podcast about coaching our children's sports teams. And I was like, do people want to hear my opinion about everything?
Kara Swisher 1:45
Really? That's a good one. I was a terrible coach, Jim.
Tim Miller 1:49
You were a terrible coach?
Kara Swisher 1:50
You're probably good. It's probably the flip on the gay thing, right?
Tim Miller 1:54
I thought, well... The outcome wasn't that great this year. So talk to me next year. I felt good. I felt like we were improving throughout the year, but the end outcome wasn't great. So we'll see how it goes.
Kara Swisher 2:04
I felt like it was herding cats and I just didn't like the entire experience. It just wasn't.
Tim Miller 2:09
I'm surprised because I would have thought the opposite with the lesbian thing. The coach that was running circles around me in the youth basketball league. I thought she was a lesbian. My husband just thought she was a sporty straight.
Kara Swisher 2:20
Oh, that happens. It's very confusing these days. I went to the Liberty game over the weekend, and you can't tell. You can't tell anymore. It's just really hard. Hard to know.
Tim Miller 2:29
You can't tell. All right. We've got much to get into. Obviously, it's all the tech, AI stuff, Elon, Bezos. I wanted to just ask a big picture question to start, though, because Scott said on your pod the other day, we are in 1999, and you agreed with that. I thought that was provocative. Yes. And I wanted more. And so give us a state of play.
Kara Swisher 2:48
We were talking specifically about the SpaceX documents, the SEC documents, which are so bad, mathematically speaking, that it calls to mind a lot of stuff that we had previously seen, you know, at the height of the dot-com bubble, where just everybody was like, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, uh-huh. And most of it was nonsense. Now, that said, out of it came Google. Out of it came Amazon. You know what I mean? Amazon had been troubled at the time. So it doesn't mean that there's not going to be big, big winners here. It's that there are a lot of stuff that isn't going to exist.

How does Kara Swisher view the tech industry's elite?

Kara Swisher 3:19
And everything, I think 10% of the stock market, some number is predicated on a small number of companies. And so if one of the struts falls out, say just this week, Uber, the CFO said, we're spending too much money on AI tokens and we don't know the efficacy of it. Like, that's a statement. Like, if there's more of those statements where people are, like, doing all this AI spending and then not finding any good use for it, it just feels like that. The cheerleader. Of course we need MySpace. Of course we need six search services. Of course we need whatever it happened to be at the time. Friendster. You know, I'm trying to remember. Mary Meeker was back in... toys.com or eToys. Remember, there was a bunch of them.

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