Jon Stewart unpacks Jimmy Kimmel’s return to television amid outcry over his suspension, a sign of the times in an era where President Trump isn’t even hiding his flagrant attacks on free speech, retaliation against his political enemies, and the brazen corruption in his administration. Jacinda Ardern, the former Prime Minister of New Zealand, sits down with Jon to discuss her experiences in office, which she chronicles in her memoir, “A Different Kind of Power,” and upcoming HBO documentary, “Prime Minister.” They discuss making progress on issues like child poverty and climate change while also managing a domestic terrorist attack and the Covid pandemic. She emphasizes the importance of politicians spending their political capital on “doing the right thing,” the globalization of political polarization, and how it’s a courageous act to be optimistic in these times. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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