Kal Penn covers Trump's plea for presidential immunity from the Supreme Court and a defamation lawsuit that could mean "the end" of Rudy Giuliani, and Grace Kuhlenschmidt offers up a solution to the abortion debate in Texas. And are aunties disappointed that Kamala Harris is ONLY vice president? Will Trump be a dictator? Does Vivek Ramaswamy have rizz? Kal Penn questions a panel of conservative Indian-American voters to see which candidate truly belongs in the White House. Plus, comedian & actor Vir Das discusses the journey he’s been on over the last few years, from facing strong backlash over his poem “I Come From Two Indias,” to winning an International Emmy for his Netflix special about the aftermath of that controversy, “Vir Das: Landing.” And he gives Kal Penn credit for influencing him to attend college in America and shares why it’s important to be “authentically Indian” on his 33-country Mind Fool stand-up tour. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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