The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
#BecauseMiami: The Death of Cuban Exceptionalism
Fri, 30 May 2025
Former congressman Joe Garcia joins Billy Corben to talk about how Cuban Trump supporters voted against their own interests...like not being deported. Also, the beef between Miami city commissioners Joe Carollo and Miguel Gabela continues as Gabela takes over Carollo's former position as chairman of the Bayfront Park Management Trust. Commissioner Gabela joins Billy to talk about his longstanding feud with Carollo. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the significance of Cuban Exceptionalism?
Look, here's what's going on. Okay. Number one, she has a tough job to do. And I realize this, right? Because she's in the middle of Carollo and myself. Okay. But she was willing to take on the mayor's last minute request. And you know what the mayor's last minute request was about? Paddleball. Okay. That's what that request was about. That's time sensitive, Commissioner.
Yeah, apparently that's more important than weaponizing city government, I guess. But I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. You know why? Because I'm not going to speak ill of my fellow commissioners, except for Joe Carollo. Okay, because I don't have beef with the chairwoman. I don't have a problem with Commissioner Pardo.
Okay, my problem is with Joe Carollo and what he is attempting to do, which is to get his way always. in the city hall. And, you know, earlier in the week, you know, there was a building collapse, right, Billy? There was a partial building collapse in my area. In Alapata, yeah. In Alapata. I asked... Art Noriega, that I wanted answers. I wanted answers.
The day after it happened, I wanted answers. And he told me that he would get to it. And I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Because I was very livid of what had happened in my area. Because this was a building that for five or six years was known to be unsafe. Okay, and was left like that until finally almost came down on somebody.
Luckily, nobody was injured, but I don't want that to happen again in my area or any parts of the city of Miami. I asked that to be put on as an emergency pocket item, and they said no to me. I got the emails to prove it. If that isn't an emergency for a pocket item, I do not know what it is, Billy. I do not know what it is. And what it is, is that people are scared of Joe Carollo.
Okay, they are scared of Joe Carollo and therefore they do this because Joe Carollo, what Joe Carollo wants is for somehow, he's hoping that Rosado wins this campaign now on Tuesday and then he has the majority and then he wants the code enforcement to investigate my properties. Okay, which have no merit whatsoever, okay, to be investigated.
Maybe his does, I would dare say, okay, but this is what he's doing. So what he did was, he did a maneuver, okay, they did a maneuver, so I cannot pass the resolution that I wanted to pass. And the resolution was quite simply, you got a problem, send it to the county and let the county deal with it. Ob es meine Rechte ist, deine Rechte, wer auch immer, wir sind beide ausgewählte Offiziere.
Aber das ist lustig, wenn man von Joe Carollo kommt, der bekannt ist, dass er mehrere Verletzungen auf seiner Rechte hat. Das ist lustig, dass er das tut und sein M.O., wie Sie wissen, immer nach seinen politischen Feinden geht, mit allem, was er hat. Das Problem für ihn ist, dass ich auch ein Stadtminister bin, wie er selbst.
Und ich habe das gleiche Recht, jemandem die Fragen zu stellen, auf dieser Diase. Ich habe gehört, dass es gesprochen wird, dass er einen Deal mit Rosado gemacht hat. Und wenn Rosado kommt, werden sie ihn zurück auf die Bayfront-Trust legen. Ich wundere, was er Angst vor hat, dass wir...
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Chapter 4: Why is the feud between Joe Carollo and Miguel Gabela important?
I am being harassed. I want to save the city of Miami. This is, this is, if you allow me, please.
The commission meeting is now in recess. I will not be here. My commissioners are here. It's three. They have a quorum. Okay, so then the commission meeting has now resumed. The commission... Thank you. The commission has recessed. Thank you. The commission meeting is over. Thank you.
My two favorite lines there, Roy, are when Chairwoman Christine King, the Commissioner, says, I don't want it to look like I'm being unfair, which because she's being unfair. And of course, when Commissioner Gabella, when you say, I know what's going on here again, we all know what's going on here. And but I want to know, I'm going to give you the last word right at a time.
But what did you mean by I know what's going on here and what happened there? And why did you feel the need to do what you did?
Look, here's what's going on. Okay. Number one, she has a tough job to do. And I realize this, right? Because she's in the middle of Carollo and myself. Okay. But she was willing to take on the mayor's last minute request. And you know what the mayor's last minute request was about? Paddleball. Okay. That's what that request was about. That's time sensitive, Commissioner.
Yeah, apparently that's more important than weaponizing city government, I guess. But I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. You know why? Because I'm not going to speak ill of my fellow commissioners, except for Joe Carollo. Okay, because I don't have beef with the chairwoman. I don't have a problem with Commissioner Pardo.
Okay, my problem is with Joe Carollo and what he is attempting to do, which is to get his way always. in the city hall. And, you know, earlier in the week, you know, there was a building collapse, right, Billy? There was a partial building collapse in my area. In Alapata, yeah. In Alapata. I asked... Art Noriega, that I wanted answers. I wanted answers.
The day after it happened, I wanted answers. And he told me that he would get to it. And I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Because I was very livid of what had happened in my area. Because this was a building that for five or six years was known to be unsafe. Okay, and was left like that until finally almost came down on somebody.
Luckily, nobody was injured, but I don't want that to happen again in my area or any parts of the city of Miami. I asked that to be put on as an emergency pocket item, and they said no to me. I got the emails to prove it. If that isn't an emergency for a pocket item, I do not know what it is, Billy. I do not know what it is. And what it is, is that people are scared of Joe Carollo.
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