Hour 1: The Mitchell Report Was Crazy, Huh?
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What insights sparked the conversation about performance enhancers?
I stumbled around a little bit in talking about performance enhancers and that Bill story, but I really did want to explore why, what I would have to present the public with, a public that in sports has become more informed and more skeptical, I would guess, than any sports fans before it because of how often your heroes have used the pharmacy to get advantages and because of how unsurprised we are now that competitive people would be super competitive about competition and look for any advantage. The Bills, who came very close to winning the championship last year, had a team the last three or four years that if a few bounces go a different way, they could be a championship team. Or if the Chiefs don't exist, they might be a championship team. They signed two free agents because they need help because last offseason, Chris Cody was right.
How have the Bills' off-season decisions been influenced by PED suspensions?
The Jets were a betting favorite, according to DraftKings, over the Bills when last season began. And it's because of Aaron Rodgers, and it was because the Bills had lost some people. So in free agency, they grab two players, and then they learn one of them, who they would not have signed for a year if they had known this, is going to be out for six games. The other one, they do know that he's going to be out for six games, but they sign him to a three-year deal anyway. And my question to the group is, unless that's Josh Allen, do any of you care? Like, can I make it any other bill from the last 10 years and none of you actually care about whether someone is performance enhancing or not performance enhancing?
But if I make it Josh Allen, then you'll be like, because it's not the crime, it's the fame.
Chris has a good one that people would notice. Damar Hamlin? I think everybody would understand. Huh, that's how it happened.
Do you understand my larger point, and what do you deal with?
Dan, I feel like I don't know enough about the kinds of PEDs that these players are using, but it's sort of my understanding that when you stop using them, they stop doing anything for you, right?
I would assume. Did it stick to Von Miller? Because he got pinched for it several years ago. Did that stigma stick around?
I'm just saying you've got to be super famous and it has nothing to do with the actual cheating.
I mean, Vaughn Miller is way more famous than Larry Ogunjobi.
Never stuck with Brian Cushing.
Why do some PED scandals gain more attention than others?
That's not true. Yes, people would certainly care well more if it was a starting quarterback, especially one with the physical gifts of Josh Allen.
I think it also depends on what it is, though, and how long they're using it and that sort of stuff. And I don't know if I know enough about it to really make a judgment call.
Generally, people don't care about NFL PED suspensions. I mean, they care for what it does to betting lines and fantasy football and baseball. I guess the timing of when these things happen also matter. I feel like if you're a star, though, like if Jamar Chase got caught, that would be a new story. It would, but for the weeks, it doesn't taint his legacy in ways that it does in baseball.
It's just the sport, right? In football, no one really seems to care about anything football players do in any aspect of anything.
I'm with you. I think there's just a general understanding. Yeah, that sport's crazier than most. I'm so not surprised that Larry Ogunjobi, who has been in the league forever, has played with so many teams, has found a way to stick through this very difficult position in an alpha male sport by turning to something. It's just not surprising. In fact... My base assumption is that all these guys have to do something, especially the ones that have stayed in the league for so long, to either recoup from injury or try to avoid it.
I'm curious because we talked about this last week in the NBA. And basically, people would care if it's LeBron. If it's not LeBron, people largely don't really care what's going on in the NBA anymore. In baseball...
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What insights sparked the conversation about performance enhancers?
0:24–1:22
2
How have the Bills' off-season decisions been influenced by PED suspensions?
1:22–2:52
3
Why do some PED scandals gain more attention than others?
2:52–5:24
4
What cultural factors surround PED use in different sports?
5:24–8:15
5
What are the implications of PED use on athletes' long-term health?
8:15–15:55
6
How does the Shador Sanders draft discussion relate to competitive pressures in sports?
15:55–40:49
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