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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Local Hour: It's Over, Stover

30 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the latest updates on Giannis Antetokounmpo's trade rumors?

0.031 - 5.037 Mike Ryan

He's doing it again, Dan. Who is? Jeremy. He's doing it again. It won't stop.

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5.417 - 11.163 Chris Cote

Oh, my God. You're talking about how he won't shut up about how the Giannis stuff is all bigger than the Super Bowl?

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11.504 - 30.004 Mike Ryan

Yes. Yes. Yes. This is like three days in a row now, and I get it. Like, the Super Bowl, okay, it's over a week away. I understand. And for that matter, the NBA trade deadline's a little less than a week away. But he's doing it again. He's trying to convince everybody. He literally just said, talking about Giannis, this is the biggest story in sports.

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29.984 - 48.016 Mike Ryan

And then he adds the caveat, you know, it was the Super Bowl too, but, you know, like he's doing it again. In his defense, though, obviously the Super Bowl is still a week away. We've got next week to really gear up and get ready and get real excited about the Super Bowl. But right now, stands to reason, Giannis is the biggest story in sports on today's Friday day.

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48.177 - 55.155 Mike Ryan

Very obviously the biggest story in sports today. Today. I'm just happy everybody showed up for work. I was going to be here no matter what.

56.339 - 62.601 Chris Cote

The trade deadline, though, is, as Zaz just mentioned, it's also a week away.

62.621 - 63.484 Dan Le Batard

Six days away.

64.173 - 89.381 Chris Cote

And, you know, there are a number of big stories in sports. We're not covering Denny Hamlin correctly. And also Djokovic right now is brawling with Sinner like this is this. If you like tennis right now, it's rare for sporting events to be happening while we're on the show. But Djokovic as an athlete has more. titles, more majors than anybody.

90.242 - 104.417 Chris Cote

And when I say that, that's a staggering thing to say given that he played against two other Djokovic's during his time. Like Serena doesn't have as many majors as Djokovic and Serena was not playing against two other Serena's at the same time.

Chapter 2: How is Djokovic's performance impacting the sports conversation?

223.934 - 235.967 Mike Ryan

I just found out that the Mammoths were a team. It's just Mammoth. Okay, so the Mammoth are a team. Hockey is Backjack is a banger. That one's better than all the other Backjack songs we have, and it's great. I agree.

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237.128 - 243.614 Chris Cote

Is Hockey Backjack, or is the season over, Stover? Like, is it back?

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243.634 - 247.118 Unknown

It's over, Rover. We move on.

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247.334 - 266.406 Mike Ryan

I was really upset last night, Dan. For the first time this season, Mike, you could say what I put in the hockey chat last night. I think I wrote, Panthers are effing terrible. And I don't ever speak like that. Thank you for allowing us to share that. This one kind of feels like it's being undone.

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266.588 - 273.014 Mike Ryan

It feels like we're getting close to the point where it's just too much to overcome and it's going to be a lost season.

273.034 - 276.598 Chris Cote

The teams ahead of them are not losing. That's an important factor.

276.618 - 293.895 Mike Ryan

Yeah, it's really hard to make the playoffs in that sport. Again, this sport could totally do with more teams because everyone's good. It's weird, right? Half the league makes the playoffs, so it's like, oh, it's very easy. No, it's really hard to make the playoffs in that league. Dan, the Panthers are eight points back of a playoff spot.

293.875 - 317.608 Chris Cote

So when you say really hard, this brings me to another subject. And I'll tie Giannis in, even though I'm watching Djokovic and Sinner right now, and we rarely have this kind of sporting event going on during the show. So please keep me updated on this, because I'm actually interested. Fading champions, dying champions, watching them fight desperately is always interesting to me.

317.628 - 339.745 Chris Cote

And I was just asking during the Shadow Show, do you think that Djokovic knows that Sinner is better than him? And I don't think that's a concession that Djokovic would make while still playing tennis. I don't think that you can win if you lack confidence that way. You almost always have to think you're able to win. But when it comes to the playoffs, making the playoffs being hard,

Chapter 3: What are the implications of the upcoming NBA trade deadline?

519.578 - 520.779 Mike Ryan

15 to 19?

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521.199 - 525.924 Chris Cote

Yeah. Morning getting sick affected a lot of different things.

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526.024 - 546.382 Mike Ryan

Well, Bosh getting sick because I remember dancing with an inflatable horse celebrating Goran Dragic and they were a game away from making it to the Eastern Conference Finals and matching up with the Cleveland Cavaliers. So I think this is the most prolonged stretch on Pat Riley's watch that they've just been ordinary without a real shot at winning the title. And there have been some lean years.

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546.402 - 562.278 Mike Ryan

There have been number two overall pick years. There was that time where They were like the five seed in a bad East, and we're all wondering if we're wasting Dwayne Wade's prime, but you knew that you had that piece. Who's the guy that you build around right now? We've been talking ourselves into BAM. I think we've maxed out that ceiling.

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562.599 - 573.109 Mike Ryan

So I think the issue here is I understand that they're not a bad team, but in that sport, they're arguably the worst thing that you can be, mediocre for an extended period of time.

573.129 - 594.709 Chris Cote

Okay, but you're saying mediocre for an extended period of time, and I would say that's been the magic for 30 years, and they had Shaq. Well, the Magic have a different standard. I'm telling you, this is the worst run of Pat Riley. I understand that it's a different standard, but what I'm telling you about these things are hard, okay, is that everyone...

594.824 - 620.434 Chris Cote

wants what the Heat have had for the last 30 years, which is you almost always matter. Like the Timberwolves matter now. They haven't mattered for 30 years and they haven't played. You said they haven't played in the finals in a long time. They were there three years ago. The Timberwolves have never been there. They had Kevin Garnett. They've never been there. These things are really hard.

620.454 - 638.162 Chris Cote

I understand. But I don't feel like we do understand when we talk about it because you say, well, it's a different standard. Well, everyone's got the standard of they want to win the championship, and one franchise is clearly better than the Heat over the last 30 years. It's the Spurs, and no one else is clearly better.

638.497 - 642.725 Unknown

That's a little dab of a paper towel on the forehead.

Chapter 4: How does the Miami Heat compare to the Warriors in potential trades?

783.182 - 799.164 Chris Cote

Let's talk about this for a second because it's interesting. A lot of parts of this are interesting. The best options that Giannis would have and the Bucs would have, it would appear, are the Warriors and the Heat, and the Warriors is a better option.

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799.324 - 818.69 Chris Cote

That's interesting for a number of reasons, including that the Warriors have so much flexibility as a well-run organization that has not won as much as the Heat the last 30 years. that they just traded for the Heat's best player and still have the assets available to have a better offer. Well, if I can add, why do you say that about the Warriors? They've won four titles during that span.

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818.75 - 826.359 Chris Cote

Oh, but over the last 30 years, okay, fine. We can say that, but by winning percentage... Oh, just like going back to 94, they were shitty for like 15 years.

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826.379 - 827 Mike Ryan

Okay, you're right.

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827.02 - 831.986 Chris Cote

Over the last 30 years, the better winning... Over the last 30 years, the Warriors are under 500.

832.006 - 852.492 Mike Ryan

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852.552 - 873.32 Mike Ryan

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Chapter 5: What factors influence Giannis's decision on his future team?

1072.606 - 1090.108 Chris Cote

because Giannis is going to tell them where it is that he wants to go, and they may or may not want to please Giannis here as part of the transaction if they can get something close to what it is that the Warriors would be offering, which they can. They can get something close, but the Warriors' offer is better.

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1090.088 - 1107.05 Mike Ryan

I think there's an issue too with a bit of subtraction by addition, right? Where you have Giannis, you get him there, but it took so much. It took such a heaven and earth move to get all of your roster gutted, to get all your picks out of the way. Now you're looking around at the locker room and it's Steph and it's Giannis and it's like, maybe Draymond's there, maybe he's not.

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1107.411 - 1121.751 Mike Ryan

And then all of a sudden in a year or two, Steph's 37, he's turning 38 in March. We got two years left of Steph, three years maybe. And at that point, Giannis is looking around being like, This is Milwaukee West. I'm back in hell, and there's nothing I can do about it because there's no picks. There's no assets whatsoever.

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1122.192 - 1144.772 Mike Ryan

That, to me, seems like a very tough place to be when you can go somewhere in the East and make the NBA Finals every single season. There's a combination of things here. I found it really interesting, both that aspect of it because— There's been no indication thus far that the Warriors are a preferred destination of Giannis. There's been reporting that the Heat are.

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1144.892 - 1156.294 Mike Ryan

There's been reporting that he has interest in playing with Anthony Edwards in Minnesota. We know about the Knicks. The Warriors have been a piece of this. without any guarantee that Giannis would extend.

1156.795 - 1177.742 Mike Ryan

So their mammoth offer, which would include Pajemski and Moses Moody and Jonathan Kaminga and Jimmy Butler, and then four picks and three pick swaps, maybe that's not something that the Warriors are fully willing to put out there, even with that Steph window. Maybe they see a hybrid version where... hey, they come get Andrew Wiggins or Anthony Davis.

1178.042 - 1191.534 Mike Ryan

But even beyond that, I don't know that that offer that the Warriors are putting out there for the Bucs is the best thing for the Bucs either, where you say, oh, but they can acquire four first round picks in three swaps.

1191.995 - 1212.136 Mike Ryan

Well, if all of a sudden it's Giannis and Steph and they're going to be maybe the best team in the NBA competing for championships the next few years, that pick swap means nothing. Two of those first round picks are at the end of the first round. You're looking at the Heat picks being in the future and delivering you a good young core right now.

1212.316 - 1230.49 Mike Ryan

You get Ware and other supplementary pieces who are under 25 years old, probably an all-star level guard in Tyler Hero who's only 25. You don't need... He's talking too much. You don't need to keep winning. Get it back to Denny Hamlin. All right, Denny Hamlin talk.

Chapter 6: How do injuries affect Djokovic's performance in critical matches?

1342.88 - 1363.99 Mike Ryan

Yeah. I understand the Heat perspective on this. As someone that thinks it's wholly unfair, I share your frustration. But Adam Silver has got a hedge against there are going to be more Terry Roziers. And what I do right now is going to serve as precedent. And it's a lot trickier than it appears just from the Heat perspective.

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1364.411 - 1376.789 Mike Ryan

Because you never know how this can be manipulated by other teams in the future. Wouldn't the precedent be let's make sure teams that know they have a player being investigated by the FBI discloses that information? Wouldn't that be the precedent?

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1376.87 - 1390.991 Chris Cote

Zaslow, you're emotional about this, and I understand. Also, I need to tell everybody that the Zaslow double dare doesn't seem to mean anything. You double dared Berube the other day. Like this double dare, triple dare, it doesn't mean anything. You're talking tough, and it's just empty.

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1391.031 - 1415.543 Chris Cote

But getting back to reading tea leaves and whatever it is that you love about the transaction, if the Heat are going to get back in this game. Why is Giannis' mom posting on social media photos of Giannis at the Miami Heat's arena? What is happening there on the tea leave front? I understand the point that Tony was trying to make before he started leaking confidence,

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1415.523 - 1432.559 Chris Cote

I don't know if you guys saw the Philadelphia game yesterday against Sacramento, but Embiid is going for 40 or Maxie is going for 37 or the reverse of that, and they're winning by two against Sacramento because Paul George fumes of himself and Edgecombe isn't the same thing he was at the beginning of the season.

1432.86 - 1444.551 Chris Cote

And all of a sudden, it takes what's left of Embiid and all of Maxie to beat the Kings by two because this shit's hard. Like it's hard to beat all these teams and build a complete team.

1444.531 - 1469.425 Chris Cote

However, the Miami Heat have in their history, I'm going to say that given the condition that Shaq was in with the Heat, even though they won a championship with him, have had only two players as good as Giannis ever. And whether he's hurt and whether you think he's old, that is a player that you have to get because the ones that you have are not good enough and by your own standard.

1469.405 - 1488.636 Chris Cote

The highest of standards. Pat Riley, it's winning or misery. By your own standard, this team is playing for championships, and we know that this one's not good enough as is. They're going to play the Chicago's and the Atlanta's and the Orlando's, and that's where they're going to be, and that isn't good enough. Giannis alters that.

1488.816 - 1498.35 Chris Cote

It's a player you have to have, even if you think he's injured, even if you think he's old. It's the kind of player you have to have because the Heat have only had two like that ever.

Chapter 7: What are the historical rivalries between Djokovic and Sinner?

1620.693 - 1625.178 Mike Ryan

How does the voice feel about me continuing on about these packages because I've spoken to people around the box?

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1625.238 - 1626.74 Unknown

Don't talk to the voice.

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1626.76 - 1637.432 Mike Ryan

The voice only exists for the listener. It speaks to their thoughts. If you react to the voice, you let out all the steam. Thank you, voice.

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1637.412 - 1649.949 Chris Cote

Jeremy, go outside to the whiteboard and do all of your Kevin Spacey and Seven writing in journals. No, I know you're not going to like the Kevin Spacey.

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1649.989 - 1656.017 Mike Ryan

Just get out of here. Can we get smaller writing, though? It's too big. In his defense, I could have pulled a different name.

1656.978 - 1662.105 Chris Cote

Not if I'm talking about somebody writing. Charlie Day would have worked. Stop reacting to the voice.

1662.165 - 1686.183 Mike Ryan

Stop reacting. You want to hear Tony messing up? No, no. Come on. Let's make fun of Jeremy. And a gambling scandal where the team was not let under the... They didn't know what was going on. Okay. Spit it out, Tony. You sound so stupid. Oh, please. What I was trying to say was that they put the gambling scandal under the rug. I got stuck with under the rug there. That's where I got stuck.

1686.203 - 1690.969 Mike Ryan

And then I was like, I can't put it under the rug. Why are we sweeping this? I can't put it under the rug. They got to know. I don't know.

1691.77 - 1693.272 Don Le Batard

Don Libetard.

Chapter 8: How do the Miami Heat's strategies affect their championship aspirations?

1856.743 - 1857.664 Mike Ryan

That's tough, Dan.

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1858.184 - 1863.43 Dan Le Batard

I don't like that we're putting up that poll. We might not like the results. All right, we put it up, though.

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1864.311 - 1873.181 Chris Cote

You don't like it. I'm telling you that I limped up to it, kind of scared, and wouldn't even put Giannis beyond him, even though I put him beyond Shaq.

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1873.602 - 1895.882 Mike Ryan

The answer's Wade. The answer's Wade. You cleaned that up. You're doing great. Hold on, Zaz, why? Why is it Wade? If we're in the fourth quarter of a huge game and the game is tied, I'm not even giving you how many minutes left. We're in the fourth quarter and the game is tied. You could either have Giannis on your team or Dwayne Wade. Who are you picking? Pick him Wade. Of course. It's Wade.

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1896.363 - 1898.265

I don't know. It's Wade. I don't know.

1899.106 - 1906.155 Mike Ryan

I think Giannis, dude, Giannis can, he can impact both sides of the floor. It's only the best shot blocking guard in the history.

1906.175 - 1907.197 Unknown

That's fine. That's one.

1907.237 - 1918.992 Mike Ryan

Shut Giannis down. Oh, come on. He was hurt the entire series. It doesn't matter. I just, there's no way I take Giannis over Wade in a tie game in the fourth quarter. I trust the team that has Dwayne Wade in that spot.

1919.377 - 1945.117 Chris Cote

Fair enough. Whatever it is, it's splitting hairs because this kind of player, never available. And at this age, never available. Like this is still not old. You're going to get five years of Giannis. Let's go out to Jeremy. Words I never thought I'd say, but I'm still reeling from both the struggle to say words, the getting of the Rudy Gay, Rudy Gobert thing wrong.

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