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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Local Hour: The Harvard Huckster Milks The Cow

14 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of Smirnoff's sponsorship in the NFL?

1.28 - 10.498 Chris Cody

All right, kicking things off with Smirnoff, the official vodka sponsor of the NFL and the number one vodka in the world. Chris Cody, you're here. Smirnoff! Wow, you're on the money with Smirnoff.

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11.27 - 23.325 Chris Cody

Chris, you know what goes great with Smirnoff? Smirnoff! Yes, but I'm really talking about the game day fit. The style's got to match the vibe. Smirnoff! All right, here's the deal. Game day is everything. And that's exactly why your fit has to match the occasion. Smirnoff!

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23.606 - 34.42 Chris Cody

Starting this December, Smirnoff is giving fans 21 and over the chance to score limited edition Smirnoff commission merchandise from some of today's top creators, including Kayla Jones, Gavin Matthew, and Alaylee May.

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Chapter 2: How do personal styles impact game day experiences?

34.64 - 48.157 Chris Cody

Smirnoff! Here's the kicker. One lucky fan will take home the grand prize, a trip to the biggest game of the offseason. Plus, one fan will win a Lely Mays one-of-one game day jacket. Wow. The merch will be dropped on select dates from December to January 21, and it's all courtesy of what brand?

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49.019 - 64.097 Chris Cody

That's right, Chris. Fans 21 and over can head to Smirnoff Socials to learn how to sign up. And don't forget to grab a bottle of Smirnoff vodka, number 21, at your local retailer. Smirnoff. Please drink responsibly. Smirnoff. Number 21 vodka distilled from grain, 40% alcohol by volume. The Smirnoff Company, New York, New York.

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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Mark Cuban's involvement in the story?

64.297 - 77.693 Chris Cody

Please do not share with anybody under legal drinking age. Smirnoff. No purchase necessary. Must be legal. U.S. resident, 21 or older. Sweepstake starts 12-15-2025 at 12 a.m. Eastern and ends 1-23-2026 at 11-59-59 p.m. Eastern. See official rules at program website.

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78.685 - 105.337 Stugatz

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105.638 - 117.667 Stugatz

If you're still feeling fantasy stress, try a Dentek nighttime dental guard to protect your teeth. Available at all major retailers. Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?

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117.967 - 140.567 Mike Ryan

Don't place parlays on multiple long shots. Don't say a game is won when it hasn't hit triple zero. Always drink your JƤgermeister ice cold. That's the rule. Everything else is merely a suggestion. Everything else? Everything else. Wearing clean underwear every day? Well, that's just a personal decision. Brushing your teeth? Obviously smart, but not a rule. Never pee-pee on an electric fence.

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Chapter 4: How does the podcast address the criticism of Pablo Torre?

140.808 - 159.992 Mike Ryan

Okay, maybe there are two rules, but the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, Jagermeister must be drank ice cold. Or don't drink it at all. Damn, that's cold. Exactly. You're finally starting to get it. Drink responsibly. Jagermeister liqueur, 35% alcohol by volume, imported by Mass Jagermeister U.S., White Plains, New York.

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165.828 - 185.489 Pablo Torre

No, we're not allowing it. No, I don't think we can do that on this one. Just because he's still milking from this trough and having Mark Cuban come in. I don't know. Was there any breaking news in this story? I thought, what is Billy shaking his head about here? I don't know what I don't think this is worthy of that.

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185.93 - 190.755 Unknown

Is there going to be discipline? Can we get to the discipline portion of this investigation?

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191.545 - 198.053 Pablo Torre

Not until Pablo gets all of his clicks beforehand because he's the only information center on this story.

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198.153 - 217.074 Mike Ryan

No discipline. You get a 90-minute catfight. I asked a question off air, but I didn't get an answer, so I'll just ask on air. Can we talk about the fact that Mark Cuban interrupted a very important company meeting because he was recording, I guess, slightly before, and he just showed up in a company meeting when they were recording this, which was kind of crazy.

217.094 - 223.763 Mike Ryan

He's just like, look, he's like, I'm Mark Cuban. He's just waving around, and people are like, all right, Mark, hit the road, Jack. We've got business to tend to here.

223.743 - 247.337 Pablo Torre

I did think it was funny that right about when we were going to start the company meeting, I see Cynthia just point excitedly at a screen in New York where Mark Cuban has popped up in Pablo Torre's office. And she was just legitimately delighted to see that he was there. And I wanted to say, hey, Cynthia, wrong Cuban.

247.503 - 269.668 Pablo Torre

Like we were about to start and she was just excited that the Shark Tank guy was wandering around Pablo's offices too. As far as I can tell, just argue with him some more when Mark Cuban is out there pretty alone. Although I have some withering criticism of Pablo Torre here that I want to read you guys and Pablo when he's on with us later.

Chapter 5: What are the contrasting perspectives on Tua's leadership?

270.128 - 274.573 Pablo Torre

Somebody goes after Pablo pretty hard. I haven't seen a whole lot of people going after Pablo.

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274.553 - 302.234 Mike Ryan

I'll look forward to that. I'm at the point where I'm just ready to let this investigation play out. I mean, the Mark Cuban episodes, I argue politics often too much, many would say. And it reminded me a lot of that. Just a refusal to capitulate, a refusal to give you an inch, a refusal to take a standard logic leap. And I was just like... All right, I got you, Mark. No one's changing your mind.

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302.655 - 317.166 Mike Ryan

To me, that was like the most interesting part of this. It wasn't any new information, but it was essentially looking at two people who have two diametrically opposed ways of looking at a story. You have one person in Pablo who looks at the humanity.

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317.146 - 328.077 Pablo Torre

I don't think you can use that that way, Chris. I think you're using that too strongly. And it can only be used in times when there's breaking news, not just when there's an argument on Pablo's podcast.

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328.097 - 353.424 Mike Ryan

You can't just use that every time you want Jeremy to stop talking. He has seven sources, human beings. He's making logical leaps from one fan to the next. And you're looking at Mark Cuban, who is unwilling to look at any fact and link it from one thing to another. He's using AI as his research tool, literally putting in ad reads for the AI software that he uses.

353.624 - 358.83 Mike Ryan

It's two diametrically opposed ways of looking at the world for an hour and a half of yelling at each other.

361.342 - 369.537 Unknown

This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast.

369.557 - 385.206 Pablo Torre

I had not actually read this entire story of criticizing Pablo Torre until right now during that hockey intro. And I just noticed that this person goes after me, too. So do you guys want to hear this?

385.186 - 406.097 Pablo Torre

Somebody really criticized Pablo Torre, and then I will tell you afterward who it is, and you tell me whether that person was right or wrong in doing this, as Pablo Torre again does what Pablo Torre does, which is get attention for himself. And you guys say correctly, just tell me at this point when the investigation is over.

Chapter 6: Why is Eric Spolstra's coaching style considered unique?

424.949 - 444.067 Pablo Torre

So Pablo is absolutely right. milking this cow. This cow is being milked even though this udder has stopped giving milk for the moment or the milk is stuck for the moment and it's just Mark Cuban coming around every once in a while and pinching a teat and running off. What are the teats on an udder?

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445.128 - 448.431 Mike Ryan

You said farm machine last week. You didn't answer my question.

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449.211 - 451.794 Pablo Torre

What is the thing you squeeze on a cow?

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451.854 - 452.374 Mike Ryan

The udder.

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452.594 - 458.079 Pablo Torre

The nipples. Those are nipples. They are nipples? On an udder? Yeah, teats.

458.28 - 459.681 Mike Ryan

Teats. There you go.

459.701 - 468.312 Pablo Torre

I called it a teat, and then it didn't seem like the right word, and then I went to utter, and then I went to farm machine, then I started losing confidence, and then you just barked nipples.

468.512 - 483.13 Mike Ryan

What's with the farm fascination as of late? Is this a late stage, like, you know what, when we finish here, me and Val want to go and own a farm somewhere in the country? I can see that. I can see Dan having a farm. I think you like the idea of it. No, you could not. No, you could not. I'm not doing anything on a farm.

483.15 - 483.531 Dan Le Batard

I'm the wrong guy.

Chapter 7: What are the reactions to the Dolphins' recent performance?

494.182 - 516.212 Mike Ryan

We've been applying cynicism to this episode. This is a very good episode because he gets more Cuban in studio, and they argue for 90 minutes, and that is very appealing to many. If you're looking for story advancement, there's some of that here. Mark Cuban doesn't really allow for that because he keeps interrupting Pablo with nonsense, really. We want to be good partners to Pablo.

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516.532 - 538.667 Mike Ryan

This is an episode, if you like people fighting, go for it. If you want a story advancement, listen to the previous episodes. I would also say if you've only sort of tangentially followed this story, this is a good way of kind of getting all of the information from both perspectives out there, not necessarily in an easy flowing way, but to be able to kind of recap where the story's at.

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538.647 - 566.933 Pablo Torre

I just haven't heard anyone other than Mark Cuban providing a different perspective to Pablo's. I haven't heard anything but applause for Pablo, save for Mark Cuban. But the headline on this story is, any investigation of Steve Ballmer should center on one dude, Pablo Torre. Good morning, Pablo Torre. Before we ramrod Steve Ballmer from the NBA, should we investigate whether this Harvard huckster

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566.913 - 584.219 Pablo Torre

still should be employed in the media business. How's that for a first sentence? Huckster. Harvard Huckster. The Harvard Huckster is going to join us in an hour and 15 minutes. He accused the Clippers owner of circumventing the league's sacred salary caps through a sordid deal with Aspiration.

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584.259 - 602.125 Pablo Torre

Now Commissioner Adam Silver has announced that the NBA vetted and approved the green banking company in 2021. What it means in 2025, Kawhi Leonard, in signing a sponsorship with Aspiration in 2022, did nothing to violate the league's collective bargaining agreement. If Ballmer signs a deal with Pepsi, as Silver has said, Leonard can sign a contract with Pepsi afterward.

602.185 - 619.33 Pablo Torre

Should the league operate this way? Fact is, 30 owners make the endorsement rules, not Pablo Torre. The financial firm crashed, which sends co-founder Joe Sandberg to prison, yet no one cares. The league doesn't demand a probe of all sponsorship agreements. Torre could have informed us before he went ape on the air. He didn't.

619.31 - 635.249 Pablo Torre

So the Clippers will continue to perform in good faith at Intuit Dome near the airport, despite a so-called legal investigation that might not end until next spring, while proving that former Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban was right in trashing Torrey on social media. I appreciate journalists who try to find the truth.

Chapter 8: How does local radio influence sports discussions in Miami?

635.469 - 652.877 Pablo Torre

I do not appreciate journalists who swing and miss and sell themselves as smarter than the audience. Torrey has done this on Around the Horn, the second ESPN show he allowed to fade off the air. And it's... And it's time his editors at The Athletic tell him he's leading the majors in strikeouts.

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653.397 - 669.759 Pablo Torre

Earlier this year, he reported Jordan Hudson would be leaving the North Carolina football program despite her status as Bill Belichick's girlfriend. She has not left at all, yet Torrey never apologized. Nor will he apologize for Ballmer. He will continue to wait until the playoffs end and a law firm decides the league was right.

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669.799 - 690.648 Pablo Torre

By then, he'll be finding out something else that may or may not be true. Torrey should probe all 30 teams. What else would he find? He will say the league has a lucrative deal with ESPN. Seriously. Baxter Holmes is a journalist more trustworthy than Tory. The problem with Pablo is that he has worked for Dan Lebitard, who urges him to chase people.

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693.011 - 695.274 Mike Ryan

That is a weekly meeting in this person's defense.

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695.314 - 698.338 Pablo Torre

That's the one that Mark Cuban crashed the other day. It's calendared. Yeah.

698.318 - 699.821 Mike Ryan

Who are we going after now?

700.181 - 711.222 Pablo Torre

Cracking a story means you must know the entire truth before going public. Who helped bring Torre and Levitard to Metal Ark Media? John Skipper, who left ESPN as president after a cocaine scandal.

711.242 - 712.604 Mike Ryan

I'm beginning to know where this is from.

712.945 - 718.475 Pablo Torre

Oh, boy. Any guesses from someone other than Mike? Any guesses who the author of this story is?

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