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Chapter 1: What unique Miami phenomenon does Dan discuss at the start?
SHADOW SHOW So what the hell happened yesterday? Because we started the shadow show and I'm whispering a little bit louder because clearly it didn't get heard by the only person that matters, which is Dan. Yesterday, we started the show saying, hey, let's all lock in. Let's downplay the trade packages from elsewhere. Golden State, Minnesota. Hype up that heat package.
Yeah, that was good.
Explain that Tyler Hero and Kahlil Ware We're trying to trick Milwaukee into thinking Ware was good by playing him some more. We want to trick them. Yeah, tricking them is the key. Honestly, it's the spine of the whole device. But where did we fail yesterday? Where we failed? By not doing the thing that we said we were gonna do. We set up the entire show. What happened? We set up the entire show.
Scranton. To be... to be about using our voice as a collective show. Jeremy, we don't have the juice. No, we do have the juice. We do not have the juice. This group of people don't. You know who has the juice? Dan Lebitard. Dan Lebitard. And Dan Lebitard did not walk in here and even address Giannis Antetokounmpo. That was Dan's fault.
We did great.
We talked about James Harden for 45 minutes. Before he was even traded. So what needs to happen now is we need to use our voice in this office to get Dan to properly use his voice in the national media landscape. You know when Dan says stuff provocative. It gets aggregated. It goes everywhere.
Yeah.
you're damn right greg dan needs to be voicing it voicing it on behalf of the city of miami does he have to wear a costume so that's up to him that would help it'd be a plus it would probably help i don't know if we have time between the shadow show and the regular show to get him in a costume
But we need Dan to be voicing it the way that Mike Ryan voiced it when it came to the Miami Hurricanes and we got them into the playoff. The way that the Boston media voiced it and made sure Damian Lillard wasn't traded here that ultimately led to them getting a title. Dan Lebitard needs to speak on behalf of the city of Miami and go get that whale. Guys, let me tell you something.
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Chapter 2: How did James Harden's trade impact the Miami Heat discussions?
I'm not bought and paid for. I'm starting with iguanas because as much as you guys complain that I say things are uniquely Miami that aren't uniquely Miami, I gotta think this plague of iguanas getting frozen and then people thinking they're dead but they're not dead, I don't think that that happens anywhere in the United States outside of Miami. I told you guys once the story.
Pat Riley learned it
the hard way when he came out and his lawn was filled with uh... iguanas he thought were dead they were just frozen it was too cold and this is what their bodies do because they're not supposed to be here and he buried them all and he killed them they weren't dead when he got them they were just frozen and then he killed them have you guys experienced this because it makes me sad the number of people wandering around some of them are making tacos out of the iguanas saying that they're the chicken of the tree yeah they're edible
Stop trying to shame Pat Riley for doing Florida a service. Whenever the temperature dips, the Florida Fish and Wildlife Association deputizes all the residents of Florida to kill this invasive species.
Yeah, we're encouraged to kill iguanas. It doesn't seem right to me. I have an iguana living in my black olive tree in the front of my house. I see it occasionally. I love that thing. It's like not counting the tail. It's like, you know, two feet long. Why wouldn't you count the tail? Well, because the tail is just an appendage.
No, the tail is part of how it is you would measure the size of an iguana. Why would you not count the tail? Chris is right about this. Why wouldn't you count the tail? The tail deserves to be counted in the measurement of the size of the iguana.
Not counting his legs, he's about four feet.
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Chapter 3: What strategies are the Miami Heat considering for Giannis Antetokounmpo?
Yeah, not counting his head. Well, it goes without saying that the tail is pretty much the same length as the body. So it's a four-foot iguana.
Okay, you're just doubled. You took half the iguana size for no reason. It's not enough that we're killing iguana right and left. Now you're taking away their tails, too?
Look, if I had a tail, okay? Picture me with a tail, like a dog tail. I'm closing my eyes. I'm picturing it.
Okay, if I had a tail... I have it more as like a dragon tail. What are you guys doing with the tail? What kind of tail? A horse tail?
I think it's like a stub.
Oh, just like a little bulldog stubby tail?
I'm picturing an otter tail. I don't know why. A couple of dogs ago, Sandy had a stub of a tail because it was a Puerto Rican dog. And apparently our friends in Puerto Rico have a habit of cutting tails when the animals... A Puerto Rican dog? Dogs have races? This was a Puerto Rican dog.
There's a lot of Puerto Rican rescues.
Willow. It barked in Spanish.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of Giannis wanting to leave Milwaukee?
Okay, the point is, the iguana that lives in my black olive tree, I love him like a pet. I would never kill him. Okay, he's cold-blooded. If he falls out of my tree, frozen, once every three years, I'm going to nurture him back to health and let him live. Jumping Charlie would not like that. Jumping Charlie would kill that thing.
Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Would Jumpin' Charlie kill that thing? And Jeremy, please look it up for me whether this is something that happens outside of Miami. It probably happens other places outside of the United States.
I just can't imagine it happens anywhere else in the United States that you have this grand proliferation of iguanas that seem like they're dead, but they're not dead. and they don't belong here, and symbolically, by the way, in terms of what's going on in America. Like, a lot of people are being cruel to the iguanas, and the saying is some form of, if you don't like ice, get out of here.
Look, I don't think the iguanas needed a famous ally the way that you're caping up for them. These are an invasive species. Do you know what that means? They're not supposed to be here. They have a negative effect on our environment. Just like ice and what they're doing on stolen land. You should not be shaming anybody. that is carrying out what is recommended.
99.6% of the sightings in the United States are in South Florida, particularly in Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach counties. They're also present in the Florida Keys. The other 0.4% are made up of Texas and Hawaii. And you know why that is, because all the other places get much colder. And so they freeze with great regularity there and probably get preyed upon.
Preyed upon by Pat Riley and all of these people in these videos who are deputized, like you're saying, we're all deputized to kill iguana even though it's terrible. This is like a nap though, right?
They wake up from this. Yeah, that's correct.
They're napping and then they're dead. That's right. They're napping and then they're dead.
Oh, I'm napping. Oh, I'm dead.
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Chapter 5: How do fans perceive Giannis's loyalty to Milwaukee?
I don't like iguanas. I don't like them either.
They're creepy. They're everywhere. I don't like them.
They look like modern day dinosaurs. I love them.
I love them too, Greg. I have so many iguanas in my backyard and they climb up the trees and sometimes it's the smaller green iguanas. Have you ever seen the giant orange ones? They're incredible. They're scary. They're dinosaurs. It's the coolest thing. How lucky are we that we live... in a plane where these iguanas exist. We're lucky to live in nature.
Yeah, I totally agree. I'm against killing them. I see Mike's point. Everything he says is true. We're encouraged to kill them. It doesn't mean it feels right.
The Miami Heat are in this building with us. The Elser Hotel is a luxury hotel across from the arena. They take care, very good care of us. And they take very good care of the luxury, the assortment of people who need luxury living in the area. And so because the Miami Heat are doing their 20th anniversary, a great many of the players are in the building. And I ran into the in the gym.
I just ran into Michael Doliak. And it was a bit awkward because I don't actually know how Michael Doliak feels about us. I didn't know beforehand. And I still don't know because he was thanking me for making people care. But he also wouldn't come in when I just said, hey, the guys would be happy to see you if you came around. And he's like, yeah, I don't want to do that.
I got to get back to Montana and take care of the cows, take care of the cattle.
Was he wearing the cowboy hat in the weight room because he wore it all week?
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Chapter 6: What parallels are drawn between Giannis and other NBA superstars?
And the guys would love to see you. They'd be really excited if I brought you down there to see everybody. That would be exciting. Yeah. And I said, if you wanted to do that, that would be wonderful. And he's like, I don't want to do that.
And so he didn't do it, and he's not doing it, but it allows us the opportunity before we talk about some of the Giannis stuff, because Windhorse on Get Up is saying, I am seeing action from the Miami Heat and Timberwolves to improve their offer. The best offer I'm aware of belongs to the Warriors, but I'm not seeing a lot of momentum towards Milwaukee making a Giannis move.
How is that the best offer, the Warriors? How is that the best offer? The only player of any substance that they're offering is a guy who Steve Kerr refused to play for 17 consecutive games. How do the Miami Heat still have better offers to make? Why are we holding back here? We're going to be stingy on the Giannis front? Are teams out there playing hard to get on Giannis? You can't have that.
It makes no sense. We've whiffed on all the superstars, and here comes one that maybe, if Miami Heat fans had their pick of any superstar in the league, he'd be up there. This is what I'm talking about. What are we holding back for? They're not holding back. That's the point. No one knows anything. Teams are increasing their offers. What are you talking about increasing their offers?
We all know what every team has to offer. How can we increase? Take whatever you want. There's no increasing! It's a good point. Except Bam. Well, that's not going to happen because the way that this really works is to pair the two of them together. That's not the offer, and that's not what Giannis would want.
Right, and they're friends, they have the same agent, and part of the reason Giannis wants this is... It wants Miami is to play with Bam. That's exactly right.
How are the Warriors increasing their offer?
They're not.
Are you telling me that they're not offering all of their picks? No, they are.
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Chapter 7: What are the potential outcomes of the Giannis trade talks?
Are you telling me they weren't offering Kaminga? How are they increasing their offer? Here's the reality. No one knows. Can I stop you for just a second, Jeremy? What I'd like to do is I'd like to do this Giannis talk, but I'd like to interrupt it occasionally just with Doliak songs without warning. So go ahead and do the Giannis talk because people do want the Giannis talk.
And Zaslow's going officially crazy because Zaslow's son yesterday fired Pat Riley and McIntyre. Mike, you were on that text string with me when a panicked Zaslow saw Minnesota make a small trade and just started shouting into the phone, we're losing him, we're losing him, Minnesota's going to get him, I know it.
They either made the move before the move, which is terrifying, or they did the thing that Miami Heat fans celebrated for 15 years, which is make sure our owner pays less money, please. Well, I was also shouting it into ESPN because it happened while I was doing afternoon drive on ESPN radio yesterday. And then I also text you guys. I think Minnesota just made the move before the move.
And my son, my 17-year-old son, just fired Pat Riley. Because my son doesn't know. My son isn't old enough. He's 17. He's not old enough to understand everything that Pat Riley did for this organization. All he knows is the last 10 years where the Heat try and do stuff, and they don't get it done. So my son wants Pat Riley fired. Not stepped down. He wants him to be fired. Rick Fernandoli, yeah.
You know that he's not waxed. It's Michael Doliak. Such a strange fan base, this Heat fan base. You have high tops at Flanagan's high-fiving each other because we moved Bino Udre to get us under the apron. Zaslow's son firing Pat Riley with a lack of respect is something he should not allow in his But Zaslow is having a little bit of difficulty teaching respect to his kids in the household.
And this is a place where it should be taught easily. But Mike also is pretty down on Pat Riley and has been for years. And now he's also down on Giannis. OK, because it's very clear, very clear in all of this.
that yannis and and this happened a little or two and that he'd caught a break that they didn't actually get lillard because then he broke but yannis clearly does not want to be seen publicly as the bad guy in this one is super interesting to me as a guy who is a foreigner and has been one of the few foreigners who's allowed to actually cross over and be an American superstar.
Like Jokic doesn't even get to be this. Giannis has learned the language and done so much to ingratiate himself to both America and Milwaukee that he's become a transcendent superstar even though English isn't his first language. That's hard to do. Baseball players have a ton of difficulty doing it. So the quotes attributed to Giannis is, What do you mean? My father's buried in Milwaukee.
My kids have Milwaukee on their passport. I don't want to ever leave Milwaukee. He does not want to look like the bad guy, and you can't do something like this if you're not okay with looking like the bad guy.
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Chapter 8: How does the episode conclude regarding the future of the Miami Heat?
What does that mean? What do you mean? I mean, he'd rather be in Greece than do what is necessary to get himself off of this roster. Because the move that the Timberwolves made was with June in mind. Not to make a move for him right now. He does not want to be the bad guy. And I think he's overthinking this. He brought a title, was the sole reason Milwaukee got an NBA title.
He's going to be a good guy in like six months' time. I think he should be a good guy the moment he's traded. I don't get the impression that anyone in Milwaukee is upset with him.
everything to that town he has been the greatest milwaukee buck of all time let him move let him do the thing that every superstar needs to do on the way out because he's not doing those things right now kareem would like a word i think kareem would like a word laker uh forgiven he gets forgotten in a lot of these situations you're not calling him by the name that he played with
I believe that Kareem also gets looked past in the conversations about who's the best player ever because we insist on doing this to someone who's a human size. It's why we like Michael Jordan and Kobe better. Like if you're seven feet, we kind of disqualify you from the conversation of whether you can be the best basketball player ever because we want it to be about will, not physical size.
I thought we don't say that he's the best ever because he's not. It's cool that we're going to do the same thing with Wemby, with him, right? Like he's going to be the greatest ever on and off the court like Kareem, and then we're just going to kind of ignore it. Eyes on the ball. Okay, so the Giannis thing. Golden State, like you were talking about, can they increase their offer?
No, they can't. The conversation around increasing their offer has been Minnesota and Miami because Minnesota, more likely than not, has just been offering like salary and is trying.
I mean, the reports are they're trying to get four or five teams involved so that they can spread Nas Reed and Julius Randle and Jaden McDaniels all over the league to acquire picks and salary filler to be able to make this move. They will have to do a ton. With the Heat, it's a matter of what salary do you want?
Do you want to be able to take guys and make those first-round pick trades on your own? And what started this is Golden State, and this has been forever, Golden State's front office talks to the national media more than anyone in basketball. they're constantly talking. They are constantly putting narratives out there. They want you to know what they're doing.
And so we've known for a while, they're going to offer all their picks. They're going to offer pick swaps. They're going to offer, offer Pajemski and Kaminga. It was Butler. Now it's green. We know what that is. Now, what do the heat and Minnesota do to match that? Cause you don't negotiate against yourself.
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