Messi vs. Yamal For The World Cup | Morally Abhorrent
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Final episode of Morally Abhorrent. What a ride it has been. And before we look ahead to what seems like a preordained final between Spain and Argentina, between Lamine, Yamal, and Leo Messi, something that was handed down from heaven. A photo from 20 years ago becomes viral yet again. I want to rubberneck a little bit with our good friend, Will Gavin, co-host of the S-Word over in TalkSport. Will, you do a lot of covering of the NFL across the pond. That was some Buffalo Bills ass behavior from England.
Couldn't have had me on after a win, Mike. Couldn't have had me on after we'd won a game. Nope. Had to wait until, as always, with the mighty England. We go out in heartbreaking fashion. That's eight times since we won the tournament. We've gone out in the quarterfinals or later, losing by a single goal. And you'd argue on many of those occasions when we were the better team, devastating stuff. Yeah, rubbernecking is definitely what you're doing. And I made the Buffalo Bills comparison on the S-word earlier today. Just sickening. Absolutely sickening.
The reason why the Bills are invoked is because you guys seemingly found a way to lose. You always find ways to snag defeat from the jaws of victory. And a lot of the blame is going to Thomas Tuchel. Now, Tuchel was careful. I thought he was... pretty thorough in his explanation post-match to why he deployed those tactics. He stopped short of throwing individual and collective players under the bus, but it was clear he thought in deploying the same kind of strategy that won him a match in Azteca, he thought that the players individually could make up the difference. What was the single biggest issue that led to England blowing this match?
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All right, give me the three biggest issues.
I can wax lyrical about this for a while. Listen, there were plenty of issues in terms of the players on the pitch. He's not wrong in those terms. In a half an hour stretch from when England scored to when Argentina equalized, we only completed 25 successful passes. There was a 20-minute stretch or about an 18-minute stretch of that where we completed just two successful passes, and that was John Stones and Jordan Pickford passing it between each other in our own box. So the players are not culpable for this in any way, shape or form. Of course they are not.
How did England collapse versus Argentina in the semifinal?
But if you deploy tactics where you put six defenders on the field, where you play five at the back, where you take Anthony Gordon off and replace him with Azri Konca, where you bring Nico O'Reilly on for Declan Rice, when you send that message to your players that we want to get entrenched, we want to sit back, we're going to give them space and we think we're going to be able to hold them off. But this isn't Mexico crossing from deep to a 35-year-old Raul Jimenez. Yes, it was the Azteca, but we were down to 10 men in that game. Like, that was proper fire and brimstone, getting through it, crawling your way to the mountaintop. This was a situation where we had the upper hand in the game. After 60 hard-fought minutes where it had been back and forth, where it had been physical, where we'd got down and dirty on their level to an extent, and we had come out on top, we just then shrunk.
We had that big moment and we completely disappeared inside our shell. And this is what we did with Southgate. We lost two Euros finals where we had leads. We lost a semi-final against Croatia where we had a lead. These are games of football that we could have gone on and won if we were bolder, if we were braver, and if the manager trusted in the quality of the players on the pitch. Thomas Tuchel has paid five million pounds a year, eight million with add-ons apparently from this World Cup.
to come in and not be gareth southgate to come in and make the bold decisions when they need to be made and with 30 minutes left of that game he ran scared cowardly is the word that's been used across talk sport today and i find it very hard to disagree with it so it's one thing to park the bus and play defensive minded to protect the lead but i didn't understand all 11 players were behind the ball and they were deep in their box they gave the greatest attacking player uh probably ever and
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:02–2:33
2
How did England collapse versus Argentina in the semifinal?
2:33–7:10
3
What tactical choices did Thomas Tuchel make that angered fans?
7:10–20:27
4
Which individual errors and substitution decisions cost England the game?
20:27–30:02
5
How did fatigue, travel and Azteca impact England's performance?
30:02–35:32
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