The Dave Chang Show
Episodes
SteakTok, Tasting Menus, and the Next DC Show Challenge
20 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Venturing behind the scenes of the best kitchens of the world and Dave’s own decidedly uneven TikTok feed, Dave and Chris map out the best ways to n...
How Chefs Eat
17 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Midway through their eating careers, how do Dave and his fellow food obsessives appraise the dishes they first loved, and how do they find new ones to...
Becoming a Tourist in Your Own City | My Opinion Is Fact
13 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Looking at a hopefully post-pandemic New York from all different angles—the vibe-drenched streets of Dimes Square, a festival stage in Chelsea, Jean...
Extremely Spicy Noodles and the Raw Crab Frontier | #AskDave
10 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Dave and Chris are breaking in the new MDM office with an on-the-fly #AskDave, covering all the topics other shows are afraid to talk about: fear in H...
You Catch It, I’ll Cook It
06 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Chasing the thrill of a DIY meal from Nairobi to Japan to Alhambra, Dave and Chris ponder hot-pot economics and then call up 'Chefs vs. Wild' host Kir...
Pizza in the Morning, Pizza at Night | My Opinion Is Fact
03 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
With another new MDM show out on Hulu, Pizzana chef and 'Best in Dough' judge Daniele Uditi weighs in on great pizza, bizarro pizza, and pizza that sh...
Desperation and Deliciousness on 'Chefs vs. Wild'
29 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In celebration of Majordomo Media’s newest Hulu show, 'Chefs vs. Wild,' Dave, Chris, and Noelle appraise their own chances of making it through a mu...
The Rings of Power and a Perfect Sandwich | My Opinion Is Fact
26 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Inspired by the last episode, Dave went fishing—and returned with stories of crushing defeat on the high seas and exhilarating victory at the hotel ...
What It Takes to Find Great Fish | My Opinion Is Fact
22 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Determined to eat more seafood but dismayed by what he sees on the shelf, Dave surveys the state of the seascape for the American home cook, and offer...
Expiration Dates, Sandwich Risks, and Ice and Fire Eating | #AskDave
19 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In a rare before-sunset Q&A, Dave fields a new volley of listener questions—and returns fire with takes on mori soba, typhoon summers, masochistic s...
The Next Wave of Korean Cuisine
15 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
With summer over and school in session, it’s officially a new year for restaurants—and Dave has a few soon-to-open places on his must-visit list, ...
Introducing Kids (and Ourselves) to New Foods and New Flavors | Clean Plate Club
12 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
With a passel of hungry, up-and-coming eaters to please, Dave and Chris face a big question every day: Can their cooking help their kids embrace new t...
Mall Food, the Chef Who Changed the Game, and Getting Better As You Get Older
08 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
A week by the seaside has Dave finding inspiration at both Wetzel’s Pretzels and Nobu Malibu, and thinking about all the shapes the second half of a...
Brigades, 'The Bear', and How Kitchens Work
01 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
With a couple more 'Bear' episodes under his belt, Dave dives into a breakneck elucidation of one of the show’s dramatic engines—the classical Esc...
Eating at the End of an Era, and Where Restaurants Will Go Next
29 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Culture moves in cycles, and so too do the ways we eat—which has Dave looking for early warning signs of what’s around the corner. He fills us in ...
What 'The Bear' Gets Right About the Time Warps Within Restaurants
25 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Fresh off finally watching the first episode of 'The Bear,' Dave breaks down what the show reveals about the surreal ways time can move inside an ambi...
Seafood Shacks, Magical Food Temperatures, and Going Down the Coffee Rabbit Hole
22 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
A Cometeer-fueled trip to the Codfish State has Dave buzzing with new discoveries about how to make familiar things just a little bit better—and how...
Cheese Foam, Carb Combos, and a Perfect Restaurant Moment | #AskDave After Dark
18 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Altered-state Dave and Chris embark on another late-night Q&A, covering the sublime, the agonizing, and everything in between—including Aaron Rodger...
Sneaking in Nutrition When You’re Cooking for Kids | Clean Plate Club
15 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Every parent dreams of giving their kids a perfect mix of the delicious and the nutritious—but once those kids begin to get other ideas about what t...
Dave’s Birthday, Over-Ordering, and a Definitive Diet-Beverage Ranking | My Opinion Is Fact
11 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
There’s no better way to celebrate Dave Chang’s forty-fifth trip around the sun than an end-of-summer MOIF, featuring such hot-button topics as: M...
Into the Order-Ticket Matrix
08 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Before Neo learned to read the green rain of code that made up the Matrix, before even Sherlock Holmes devised a way to describe a man based on a glan...
Dave's Ramen Origin Story, Chewing Our Way Through Language Barriers, and Tips for Seeking Out the Delicious
04 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Food may be a universal language, but how much gets lost in translation when you're eating in a place where you're not a native speaker? Dave shares a...
Cooking Tips, French Fry Rankings, and Restaurants That Celebrate the Absurd
01 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
On a bounteous, bento box-style multi-segment episode, Dave delves into a few recent home-cooking successes before turning to a whirlwind assessment o...
52 Dishes
28 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
On an episode for the ages, Dave Chang takes us through a full deck of unforgettable dishes—the ones he never stops thinking about. He covers 50-plu...
Dave’s Home Alone, How Food Follows Fashion, and a Reality-Altering Moment at Noma Tokyo
25 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Did one ramen chef’s last-minute decision to photograph the very first service at Noma Tokyo's pop-up … irreversibly change the course the restaur...
The Most Memorable Meals Dave Has Ever Had, the Power of Not Knowing, and the Lure of the List
21 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
How the heck are we supposed to figure out where to eat in 2022 anyway? On the heels of an unforeseen but absurdly good Peking duck dinner, Dave and C...
Astrophysics, What’s Good, and a Double-Take-Worthy Dispatch from Atlanta
18 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
After spending the first half of the show grappling with the existential questions, from the prehistory of the known universe to the future of going o...
Are We In or Out on In-N-Out?
14 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In-N-Out Burger has had an almost unparalleled run as one of the most beloved operations in the western U.S., but there’s still one holdout rolling ...
Chris Bianco Interview Decoded
11 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In a brief respite between his travels, Dave Chang teaches you everything you need to know about making dashi at home, then decodes his interview with...
You Learn Things When You Burn Things
07 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
With a new restaurant open in L.A. and 30 years of gorgeous pizzas bearing his name in Phoenix, AZ, Chris Bianco has a lot of stories to tell. He retu...
Dave Chang Goes to Italy
20 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
With his trip to Italy in the rearview, Dave takes to the mic to break down the surprising highs and occasional luggage-related lows of a week or so o...
What It Takes to Make Great Pasta With Evan Funke
16 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Six months in, Evan Funke’s Mother Wolf is one of the hottest tables in Hollywood—but getting there took 15 years of obsession with the practice o...
Picky Eaters, the Baby-Product Universe, and Dave Chang Kids’ Meal Tips | Clean Plate Club
13 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
What do you do when your kid only wants plain rice—or worse, rice with American cheese? With the help of our friends at buybuy BABY, Dave and Chris ...
Turning Creativity into Culture With John Jay
09 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
After spending 20 years crafting campaigns for the likes of Nike, John Jay jumped into a new role as President of Global Creative for Uniqlo—and the...
Why Travel Anywhere? | My Opinion Is Fact
06 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
With a trip to Italy on the horizon, Dave’s wondering what it is we’re looking for when we fly halfway around the world—and Noelle and Chris are...
Plunging Into Pizza With Wylie Dufresne
02 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Wylie Dufresne blazed a relentlessly creative trail for a generation of adventurous restaurants—and more recently, he’s been making pizza. It was ...
Living an Earned Life With Marshall Goldsmith
26 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Marshall Goldsmith works as an executive coach with some of the most successful people alive—and finds they’ve often mastered everything except ho...
SF and NY Eating, Coconut Coffee, and a Few of Dave’s Favorite Recipes | My Opinion Is Fact
23 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
After a vintage ‘Dave Chang Show’ solo intro and a bicoastal dining update, Dave ushers in Chris and Noelle for a rapid-fire run through the rest ...
House Spice, How to Cook Crawfish, and Forging a New Cuisine With Kwame Onwuachi and Joshua David Stein
19 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Chris and Dave call up the pair behind the best-selling 'Notes from a Young Black Chef' to discuss their brand new cookbook 'My America,' and what it ...
Multiverse Dave in Search of the Sasquatch | My Opinion Is Fact
16 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
After last week’s Dave-induced derailment, it’s time at last for the gang to relay their Required Eating reports—and suddenly, everyone’s putt...
Unreasonable and Radical Ideas With Lucas Mann
12 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Dave and Chris call up Acre Venture Partners co-founder Lucas Mann to talk about how a future-focused VC firm engages with the tough-to-change worlds ...
Steakhouses, Dishwashers, and Keeping Up With the Late-Night Coffee Drinkers | My Opinion Is Fact
09 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
The MOIF team reconvenes to review the Required Eating challenges handed down last week—and what was meant to be a finale turns into more of a cliff...
Biscuits, Brisket, and Big Pizza Energy With Bryan Ford
05 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
The Great Pizza Debate continues with Recipe Club veteran and New World Sourdough author Bryan Ford stepping up to contend with unrepentant homemade p...
Airport Food, Zabar's Tactics, and a New MOIF Challenge | My Opinion Is Fact
02 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Dave, Chris, and Noelle are shaking up the show with a newly kinetic, activity-driven MOIF format—and if you're reading this, we're roping you into ...
A Master Brewer Takes on Nonalcoholic Beer | Demystified
28 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
John Walker was earning accolades for his work as a brewer in Santa Fe when he heard about a different kind of challenge—starting up a first-class n...
Shoestring Fries, Sous Vide Thoughts, and Food Gifts for Your Boss | #AskDave After Dark
25 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
The gang returns for another late-night Q&A—but first, as a little warm-up, we recap Dave’s visit to Pizzeria Bianco, Chris’s Newport Seafood bi...
The Rise of West Coast BBQ (and Where Dave Wants It to Go Next) with Matt Horn
14 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Eighteen months after opening the doors at West Oakland’s Horn BBQ, Matt Horn has lines down the block, a second restaurant, and a new cookbook out ...
Secret Burger Intel, Banchan Abundance, and the Opposite of ASMR | My Opinion Is Fact
11 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
On their latest fact-finding expedition, Dave, Chris, and Noelle criss-cross the Western U.S. to consider becoming a carrot-cake household, 'Harry Pot...
Infinite Energy Is an Understatement, With Christina Tosi
07 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
What was life like for a young New York chef chasing a dream in the early 2000s? Milk Bar founder and Dave Chang chosen-family member Christina Tosi w...
Birthday Banquets, High-Speed Early-Bird Dinners, and Europe the Dave Chang Way | My Opinion Is Fact
04 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
With a crab-or-prime-rib-driven 80th birthday party to plan, Dave, Chris, and Noelle set out to survey the Southern California seafood-banquet landsca...
'The Wok', Recipes, and Letting Go of “The Best” With J. Kenji López-Alt
31 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
The eminent author of 'The Food Lab' and the just-released 'The Wok' joins Dave and Chris to talk about life as a lodestar to a generation of cooks, b...
Ice Cream, Late-Night Dining, and the 2022 Chain-Restaurant Draft | My Opinion Is Fact
28 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
After comparing notes on their latest LA exploits, Dave, Chris, and Noelle step into the My Opinion is Fact arena once again—before deciding that th...
Shame Wizards and Ambition Gremlins, With Nick Kroll
24 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
'Big Mouth' and 'Human Resources' creator (and Dave’s old friend!) Nick Kroll is back on the show to talk about new projects, new parenthood, and al...
If It’s Nice Outside, It’s Nice Inside, Too | #AskDave After Dark
21 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Powered by half a glass of Hibiki, it’s time for Dave to go toe to toe with the latest listener questions plucked from the Majordomo Media Discord—...
The Secret, Extremely Spicy Recipe for Talk Show Success
17 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Dave and Chris call up Sean Evans, the hot-sauce-hardened host of 17 seasons of 'Hot Ones,' to find out exactly how he puts together one of the best i...
Food Abstinence, Food Orgy | My Opinion Is Fact
14 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
It’s the end of a revelatory month on the Wheel of Constraint, and our hosts have convened to assess their achievements, consider some potentially t...
Dave Goes to Disneyland, and a Talk With the Director of 'Turning Red'
10 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
After a debrief on the ups and downs of Dave’s first tour of dad duty at the Happiest Place on Earth, Dave and Chris call up Domee Shi, the director...
A Whirlwind Guide to New Orleans, and One Last Bite of the Wheel | My Opinion is Fact
07 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
On a rare four-mic episode, longtime friend of the show Anoop Pillarisetti lays out his Crescent City essentials before recounting his own recent ride...
An Expert’s Perspective on Pots and Pans | Demystified
03 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Dave and Chris call up Stanley Cheng, CEO since 1972 of the cookware-revolutionizing Meyer Corporation, for an insider’s guide to the industry and a...
A Trader Joe’s Check-in | My Opinion Is Fact
28 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
It’s Day 7 of Noelle’s Trader Joe’s–only diet, so at the tail end of that experiment within an experiment, Dave and Chris check in on Noelle’...
Dave Chang Shoots the Moon | My Opinion Is Fact
24 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
What happens when the Wheel of Constraint rolls into the City of Second Chances? Dave reports on a weekend to remember in Las Vegas, and Chris and Noe...
Difficulty Isn’t a Bad Thing | My Opinion Is Fact
17 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
With Week 1 of their Wheel of Constraint ordeal wrapping up, Dave, Chris, and Noelle might just be close to the renewed food gratitude they’ve been ...
Aphrodisiacs, Oxtails, and Valentine’s Day Erasure | #AskDave After Dark
14 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
It’s the only day of the year that stands neck and neck with SantaCon in the cockles of Dave’s heart—which means it’s time for an especially a...
Spinning on the Wheel of Constraint | My Opinion Is Fact
10 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Dave, Chris, and Noelle check in midway through Day 1 of a monthlong sugar-banishment ordeal, and things are already looking tense. With two meals dow...
The Cleaver in the Arena | My Opinion Is Fact
07 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Dave, Chris, and Noelle assemble for a fortifying round of MOIF before grappling with their greatest challenge yet: the Wheel of Inspirational Constra...
Are Restaurants Ready for NFTs? | Demystified
03 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Galaxy Digital CEO, prison reform advocate, and blockchain evangelist Mike Novogratz returns to the show to guide Dave and Chris through the wilds of ...
Eating Boneless Wings in the Metaverse | My Opinion Is Fact
31 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Dave, Chris, and Noelle combine their MOIF powers once again, in an action-packed episode encompassing Chris burning his eyebrows off, keeping your fr...
The Hidden Origins of Dave Chang | Demystified
27 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
A few weeks ago, Henry Louis Gates brought Dave onto PBS’s 'Finding Your Roots' for a deep dive into the Chang family lineage—and turned up some i...
The Pizza Oven Paradox | My Opinion Is Fact
24 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Does wanting to make pizza at home mean the universe is telling you to never, ever make pizza at home? Dave straps on his Socratic sandals to guide us...
Dinner Music, With Hrishikesh Hirway of 'Song Exploder'
20 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
The creator of the captivating podcast turned TV show 'Song Exploder' joins Dave and Chris to explore the kitchen equivalent of demo tapes, the as-yet...
The Big Boy Asian Club Fireside Chat | My Opinion Is Fact
17 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Dave and Chris assemble for a late-night review of recent meals, the best sick-day foods, and a few different international mysteries. Also considered...
Bringing Oaxaca to L.A. | Best of the Best
13 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
When L.A.’s Guelaguetza restaurant opened in the mid-’90s, mole and mezcal and all the other treasures of Oaxacan cuisine were a long way from the...
The Best College Town, Solved
10 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
We were supposed to record a MOIF, but Dave and Chris got in an argument about the topic. One wanted to talk about curry. The other wanted meatloaf. W...
Existential Home Cooking Dilemmas | My Opinion Is Fact
06 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
It’s the first MOIF of the year, and we’re off to a dark start. Dave laments his own cooking, and searches for inspiration. Also, pizza is great. ...
Christmas Dinner Draft After Dark
20 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Night has fallen once again, and Dave, Chris, and Noelle have assembled for another late-night recording and their last challenge of the year: a Chris...
Food, Farming, and the Climate Crisis | Demystified
16 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dave and Chris sit down with 'Speed & Scale' authors and venture-capital veterans John Doerr and Ryan Panchadsaram to discuss what their new book has ...
The Dave Chang Show Gift Guide, Part II | My Opinion Is Fact
14 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dave, Chris, and Noelle return for the big reveal of their deeply researched, still-buyable tripartite gift guide, covering all the essentials for the...
Hot Pot | Demystified
09 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
886 chef and 'The Next Thing You Eat' guest Eric Sze joins Dave and Chris for a scalding plunge into what may be Dave's favorite cooking method out th...
The 'Dave Chang Show' Gift Guide, Part I | My Opinion Is Fact
06 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
With the leftover stuffing all eaten at last, and Dave-dismaying Mariah Carey songs already in the air, we turn our minds toward Christmastime. Discus...
The Dave Chang Show’s 250th Episode, With Bill Simmons
02 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Our first guest ever, the Podfather himself, returns to recall the freewheeling days when this podcast was just a glimmer in Dave’s eye. Also consid...
Store Brands, Yakitori, and Another No-Hitter in the Making | #AskDave After Dark
29 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
The stars are out, and Dave and Chris have assembled for another late-night fever dream of a Q&A. Discussed: sleep regression, Cajun honey ham, crossi...
Pie Opinion Is Fact: The Grand Finale
22 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
The thrilling, shocking conclusion has arrived—Round 4 of the quest to discover the Autumnal American Pie of the Year. But before revealing our winn...
A Long Shot Takes the Crown | My Opinion Is Fact
18 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
At last, we answer America's burning question: Who won the Pronunciation Bee? And then: a glimpse into Dave's vast Basque Rolodex, a prophecy fulfille...
Pie Opinion Is Fact, Vol. 3
15 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
POIF Part 3 is here, and the gang is in very deep. After a brief check-in with KCRW's pie-contest maven, Evan Kleiman (5:20), we get into our tasters'...
Pork and Shrimp Are Best Friends | Best of the Best
11 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dave and Chris welcome back chef Diep Tran to celebrate the treasured elixir that is Red Boat Fish Sauce before embarking on a whirlwind survey of the...
Isaac’s Farewell and Pie Opinion Is Fact, Vol. 2
08 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dave, Chris, and Noelle briefly say some nice things about Isaac on his last episode as the producer of this show (0:00) before diving back into the w...
Pronunciation: Demystified
04 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Have you ever been at a restaurant and afraid to order a dish because you don’t know how to say its name properly? Well, so have Dave and Chris. In ...
Pie Opinion Is Fact, Vol. 1
01 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
It’s finally November, also known as pie month here at Team MOIF. In celebration, we wax poetic about our favorite crusty circles and learn about th...
Spam Supremacy, a Utopian Takeout Day, and Top 10 Salads | #AskDave After Dark
28 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Another #AskDave After Dark, another chaotic conversation, another frenzy of answering your questions. On today’s show: rushed cooking on a tight pa...
The 2021 Candy Draft | My Opinion Is Fact
25 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Each member of the MOIF crew put together seven-member rosters of candy. And things got … a little competitive. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Gue...
How To Cook Beyond Recipes
21 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dave and Chris are joined by Priya Krishna to explain the thought process behind their new book “Cooking at Home: Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying...
The Wide World of Groceries, Part 2 | My Opinion Is Fact
18 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
The MOIF crew continue their excessively obsessive conversation surrounding the grocery store experience (0:00) before drafting supermarkets from arou...
The Future of Food and Dinner Party Music, With Morgan Neville
14 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dave and Chris are joined by filmmaker Morgan Neville to preview their upcoming Hulu series ‘The Next Thing You Eat’ (0:00) before discussing thei...
The Wide World of Groceries, Part 1 | My Opinion Is Fact
11 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
The MOIF crew debate the what, where, and how of buying groceries. What even is a grocery store? Do you buy organic or conventional? Cart or basket? ...
Coffee: Demystified
07 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dave and Chris bring in coffee legend George Howell to hear about how he changed the coffee industry, what goes into good coffee, and where coffee is ...
The Lunch Special | My Opinion Is Fact
04 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
The crew reassemble to discuss everything that has to do with that meal you eat in the middle of your day. Host: Dave Chang Guests: Chris Ying and Noe...
Dads, Vol. 12 With Pablo Torre
30 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dave and Chris call up Pablo Torre, ESPN personality and father to an 18-month-old baby, to discuss their children’s poop for a truly disturbing amo...
The Back-to-Restaurant Special | My Opinion Is Fact
27 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Now that many of us have safely returned to dining out, Noelle asks the rest of the crew: How do you react when you drop your silverware? (13:16) How ...
Don’t Be Afraid of Fish
23 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dave recounts the week he first met Australian fish chef Josh Niland (0:39) before Josh explains how to overcome the trepidations many feel about cook...
Margaritas, Bologna, and Hiking | My Opinion Is Fact
20 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dave, Chris, Noelle, and Isaac congregate once again to debate the merits of recipes (or the lack thereof) (0:24) before sharing their thoughts on a v...