The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
05 May 2025
Kiera Palmer shares her powerful story of leaving toxic corporate life, betting on herself, and building two thriving businesses. From emotional lows to building her dream studio, this is a raw conversation about grit, faith, and never quitting, no matter how hard it gets. If you're stuck, chasing dreams, or facing setbacks, this episode will light your fire. Subscribe, share, and stay determined! Drop a comment: What risk are you scared to take right now? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who are Sean French and Kiera Palmer?
But, I mean, there was some inappropriate behavior that was... I mean, I was female. Of course. And young and blonde. Just really inappropriate stuff. I mean... You know, you look back and you're like, oh, he did that cringe. Like specific things, you know. There's actually, I remember very specific, and it wasn't me that he was talking about.
I remember one day where he was walking around the office with his phone and he was showing pictures of this female that used to work for him who had had some plastic surgery. Oh my God. And it just, and he's like, you know, and he like showing it to people and I'm like, does he realize that this is, it's just not okay?
Well, that's harassment. Yeah. Even if you're in the area. Yeah. Yeah.
But I mean, and then that industry too is definitely like bro driven. Okay. Very, very driven. I remember being out in Vegas at our high producers conference one year and our office won for like office of the year and say, hey, we all go piling up on the stage and like all the producers and someone looks over.
There's literally like two women on stage and then 45 guys, you know, like they're like, oh, that doesn't look so good.
That's a disparity there.
Yeah. Like, oh, I'm like, well, yeah, that's basically how it is. Yeah. You know, you almost like get to the point and you're like, well, I mean, I think they may have gotten, I think they've gotten a little bit better over that over the years because it kind of had to.
Yeah.
But again, I've been out. So. Yeah.
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Chapter 7: What role does social media play in building genuine connections?
Yeah.
There's been multiple people over the years. We may have spoken about this offline. I'm not sure if we have. There's been multiple people over the course of, what, the last four and a half years said you cannot build a brand off the backbone of just a show. I was like, well, why not? Like, well, look at Joe Rogan. He was Joe Rogan. Like, look at Andy Vercela. He started first for me.
I go, well, dope. I will be one of the first ones that build an empire off of a microphone and a camera. And then I will build something else that comes along with this brand. See, because to me, the way I look at it is like, to me, that's true reverse engineering. Like, no, I hadn't really done anything. I had did some things in sales and I was in the top 10.
one to 5% of every company I was with. Cool, neat. But I hadn't built a business. And I just feel like now we're starting to really truly build the business aspect of it. But like to going from an iPhone in a car to number three on Spotify and business. that is determination.
That is like being a glutton for punishment because just like you, just like you sitting in my office, I remember when I was doing the show from home, like I would sit in that den where everybody always saw me smiling and giving the most energetic interviews. Most of the time,
Before those interviews were shot, I was pacing around the house in tears, depressed because I felt like I wasn't good enough because I wasn't getting the response. But what I learned is I was becoming somebody that was fucking bulletproof. And now that I've changed other things in my life, my nutrition, my activity level.
And now I'm completely transforming, not just externally, but internally, like, nah, like this is, this is what we're coming onto. Like, this is what we're building. This is what we're doing. And I've become a different human.
And do you think that part of that when, when you're having those moments, because I think, I think about this a lot, you know, especially when you, when you're trying to coach up somebody else or something like that,
You know, I think because of the world of social media and things like that, people have this very skewed idea that these things happen overnight and everybody wants instant gratification. Yeah.
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