Most Replayed Moment: Here's What Happens When A Nuclear Bomb Drops! These Countries Will Be Safe!

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Allie Jackson 0:00
If you're a podcast host, listen up, this one's for you. My name is Allie Jackson. I'm the host of Finding Mr. Height, a dating and relationship podcast that I've been doing for four years now, sharing my positive and practical approach to dating that's built on my own life experience. And I wanted to share another experience that I've had, my secret behind monetizing my show. It's called Red Circle. And I was just telling my colleague about how much I love their platform. With Red Circle, not only am I getting a seamless hosting experience, but I also love the support I receive in ad sales. It's not just typical ad sales either. It's It's targeted opportunities based on my show and my life. And the platform is super simple.
Allie Jackson 0:34
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Steven Bartlett 1:01
If I was a fly on the wall, not that there would be a wall left, and I was looking at America or the UK after it had been struck by these nuclear bombs, by thousands of Russian or North Korean nuclear weapons, what would I see? What would the visuals be in those minutes after the strike?
Annie Jacobsen 1:21
I describe the first bomb in the scenario that strikes the Pentagon. It's a one-megaton thermonuclear bomb in painstaking, horrific detail, all sourced from Defense Department documents, defense scientists who have worked for decades to describe precisely what happens to things and to humans. And it's horrifying. But on top of the initial flash of thermonuclear light, which is 180 million degrees, which catches everything on fire, in a nine-mile diameter radius, on top of the bulldozing effect of the wind and all the buildings coming down and more fires igniting more fires, on top of the radiation poisoning people to death in minutes and hours and days and weeks if they happen to have survived, on top of all of that, each one of these fires creates a megafire that is a hundred or more square miles.
Annie Jacobsen 2:14
And so essentially, in essence, what do you see? Well, in the scenario at minute 72, a thousand Russian nuclear weapons land on the United States. And so it just becomes a conflagration of fire. It's just fire, fires burning, fires, 100, 200 square mile fires burning. And then we move into nuclear winter. And that's sort of the denouement of the book, where I tell you about nuclear winter from the point of view of one of the original scientists who wrote that original nuclear winter paper, with Carl Sagan back in 1983. And his name is Professor Brian Toon. And he spent the decades since working with the state-of-the-art climate modeling systems that can now precisely tell us what nuclear winter will look like.
Steven Bartlett 3:07
Because I've always thought, you know what, nuclear war wouldn't be that bad if, you know, Russia launched a thousand of their nuclear bombs at the United States and I was here in New York where I am now. I would die instantly, so I wouldn't really know it happened. Is that true?
Annie Jacobsen 3:20
I think you would want to die instantly. I mean, there's a quote from Nikita Khrushchev, the former premier of the Soviet Union, and he said, after nuclear war, the survivors would envy the dead. Because there is this sense of if you survived, I mean, there is no more law and order. There is no more rule of law. There is no government. Craig Fugate made that very clear. The bunkers that the people in the military command and control centers would be in, let's say the secret bunkers, not the ones that are targets that Russia is going to take out that I write about in the book, but the smaller ones, Those are going to only function for as long as there's gasoline to run the diesel generators. And then those people are going to have to come out.

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