Most Replayed Moment: Mouthwash REVERSES The Benefits Of Exercise! Dr Nathan Bryan

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett 24 min 3 speakers 5 chapters transcribed 3 months ago
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I sold my car in Carvana last night. Well, that's cool. No, you don't understand. It went perfectly. Real offer, down to the penny. They're picking it up tomorrow. Nothing went wrong. So, what's the problem? That is the problem. Nothing in my life goes to smoothly. I'm waiting for the catch. Maybe there's no catch. That's exactly what a catch would want me to think. Wow, you need to relax. I need to knock on wood. Do we have wood? Is this table wood? I think it's laminate. Okay, yeah, that's good. That's close enough. Car selling without a catch. Sell your car today on Carvana. Pick up fees may apply.
Steven Bartlett 0:34
If I've just listened to everything you've just said there, and I want to improve my oral microbiome, what should I be doing?
Dr. Nathan Bryan 0:40
Well, I think the most important thing we've learned is what you shouldn't be doing. Yeah. So it's not what should we do, it's what we shouldn't be doing. Number one, we have to get rid of fluoride. You know, just this past weekend, I was speaking at a dental conference in Salt Lake City, and there were people there from the National Toxicology Programme. which in the U.S. is the organization tasked with, if there's any kind of risk of exposure of environmental toxicant, they're charged with doing the toxicology studies to see if there's an increased risk. What is the risk? And is there a safe level that is without risk? And what they report is that fluoride, there's no benefit of fluoride, and it's all risk.

What should we avoid to improve our oral microbiome?

Dr. Nathan Bryan 1:19
It lowers IQ in kids by as much as seven points. and it shuts down your thyroid function, and it's a neurotoxin. And as I mentioned before, most toothpaste has fluoride in it. And if you read the back of your toothpaste, it will tell you, at least in the US, I don't know about in other countries, but it says, if you swallow this, call poison control. Because it's a poison. They're putting poison in toothpaste. And then if you also pay attention, it says only put a pea-sized amount of toothpaste on your toothbrush. A pea-sized. But everybody that I know fills the entire bristle of the toothbrush with toothpaste. So that's about 10 or 15, sometimes 20 pea-sized amounts of toothpaste. And a pea-sized amount of toothpaste contains about half a milligram of fluoride.
Dr. Nathan Bryan 2:09
Now, if you're using 10, 20 times more than that pea size, now you're exposed to 5 milligrams, 10 milligrams of fluoride.

How does fluoride impact oral health and nitric oxide production?

Dr. Nathan Bryan 2:17
And you don't even have to swallow it. This is a very small molecule, a molecular weight of 19. So it's absorbed directly across the buccal mucosa, the oral cavity, and it becomes systemic.
Steven Bartlett 2:28
I'm not going to use it anymore.
Dr. Nathan Bryan 2:29
No, you shouldn't.
Steven Bartlett 2:31
What should I use instead? You have to use a non-fluorinated toothpaste. And what about things like tongue scrapers?
Dr. Nathan Bryan 2:37
Now, tongue scrapers, the data, again, that's time tested. That's an ancient practice. And even in our study, we found that people who do tongue scraping have a more diverse oral microbiome and they seem to have better oral health.
Steven Bartlett 2:51
Why is this? My girlfriend's been banging on to me. She's always bloody right. My girlfriend's been banging on to me about tongue scraping for the last two years. And I've kind of just ignored her. I've just kind of, yeah, babe, sure. And when she's not in the bathroom, I'm not using her tongue scraper because it just looks strange. For me, based on what I knew about the oral microbiome and the microbiome generally, I'm like, should I be scraping off all my bacteria?
Dr. Nathan Bryan 3:14
Well, if you're going to plant a garden, do you plant a garden on untilled soil?
Steven Bartlett 3:19
Listen, I know nothing about gardening. You're asking the wrong guy, so maybe, yes.
Dr. Nathan Bryan 3:22
I grow my own food. Okay. So you have to till the soil, right? You've got to break up the soil so the seeds actually can be aerated, and you break up that biofilm. Yeah, you take the back of the dorsal tongue, I mean, almost to the point of the gag reflex, and you just pull that— ideally copper, tongue scraper forward, and you're going to see this goop coming in there. But it's kind of like tilling the soil, and it's increasing the diversity of the dorsal part of the tongue, the microbiome.

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