LEMON DROP | This is No Longer A Country of Law & Order!

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Don Lemon 0:00
All right, we're here with Michael Fanone. Michael, this one is right up your alley. It's perfect that you're on. Did you hear what the president of the United States said recently, just recently, about protesters will be met with heavy force if they get out and protest his fucking parade?
Michael Fanone 0:17
Yes. So if you come to D.C. and protest his big, beautiful birthday bash...

What is Don Lemon and Michael Fanone’s reaction to Trump threatening ‘extreme force’ against protesters?

Michael Fanone 0:23
where he exploits American military members for his own personal gratification, you will be met with extreme force. I think that's all the more reason that... You know, as many people who can, I certainly will be there in Washington, D.C. on the 14th protesting. I was going to do something local where I'm at in Virginia. But because Donald Trump threatened me as an American citizen, I'm going to come to his bullshit birthday party and protest.
Don Lemon 0:57
You think that I should just do it here in New York or you think that I should? You're a target, too. I'm a target. I'm not worried about protesting. I'll get out there and protest. But there are some people that may just be they would want to target us and hurt us just because of who we are. Do you understand what I'm saying? And I don't want to I don't want to be in a place that's going to draw the attention away from the people who need it. And that's the protesters. So I don't know. Should I come to D.C.? What do you think?
Michael Fanone 1:27
I mean, I was hoping that there would be a huge coalition of people, especially coming from the Substack community, because so much of what we're about is entrenched in this moment. You know, this is 250 years of history in this country that have led to what we're experiencing right now. And, you know, it is the ultimate test of what what are we made of? So I'll be here, Don. And if you make your way down here to D.C., I'll be standing right next to you. So just let me know.
Don Lemon 2:06
But can you protect me?
Michael Fanone 2:11
I'll do my best.
Don Lemon 2:13
Do you still have some of the things that you used as a police officer to protect folks? If you do, I'm good.
Michael Fanone 2:22
I have better things now, Don.

Should I travel to Washington, D.C. or protest locally — is it safer to protest in numbers?

Don Lemon 2:25
Seriously? Okay. I may think about that. I might just do that. But I'm wondering, too, if there are going to be protests here in New York, because you know, New York gets a lot of attention. And, you know, Trump Tower is here, and I'm sure people are going to be protesting out in front of Trump Tower. So I'm trying to decide between New York City and Washington, D.C. I had planned to just go live on my channel all day sitting in my home studio here, and then if something broke out in New York City, I don't know. But that's a question, honestly, let's talk about that, that I think many people in America are facing, especially since Donald Trump is saying, let's, you know, extreme, what did he say, extreme force?
Don Lemon 3:09
That is a question, that's a dilemma, I believe, for a lot of people. Should I go and risk being hurt or should I protest some other way? And I think that he's trying to get people to stay home. But what do you think?
Michael Fanone 3:26
I think that's exactly right. I think that he's trying to get people to stay home. I mean, listen, you know, Donald Trump does hold a tremendous amount of power. You know, he controls the American military and he also controls Russia. You know, these state militias, National Guard. And, you know, to to a degree, he has a great degree or, you know, tremendous influence over American law enforcement. That being said, I don't think that Donald Trump telling the press that if you come to his birthday bash and protest that he's going to, you know, that you'll be met with extreme force is actually going to have any. real influence over the way that law enforcement officers behave towards protesters. He might want them to.
Michael Fanone 4:18
He might be trying to signal to them that it's OK. But at the end of the day, you know, police officers are trained professionals. You know, obviously, there's always some, you know, pieces of shit in the in the bunch. But For the most part, you know, I don't think you're going to see any anything like you experienced during the civil rights movement. But, you know, I could be wrong.

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