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Chapter 1: What happened during Kristi Noem's second day of testimony?
Where does the time go? It seems like we were just here chatting with each other just a couple of hours ago because we were... Welcome to Lemon Live at 5. Boy, oh boy, oh boy. Okay, so do you remember yesterday we were talking about Kristi Noem in front of the Senate and how she got her ass handed to her just like on a plate like, here's your ass.
You are an idiot is basically what they said to her. Well, she's a glutton for punishment because she went back to the hill today, this time to the Capitol. And what was left of her ass, they handed it to her again. and not undeservedly, deservedly so. So, here's what I want you to do, and I'm gonna be quiet for like a bit. You know what I want you to do. Hit the like and the thumbs up, people.
Just go and hit that thumbs up and make sure that you hit the thumbs up, because it affects the algorithm and more people become aware of our conversation, and that is a good thing. Okay? Because the algorithm will send it out. London, UK in the house, oh my goodness. I love it when foreign country, foreign country, foreign countries are in here.
And I love it that, you know, I have to, I have to fix, get my phone. My phone must be a country bumpkin. Maybe it knows from whence I came because every time I say Iran in there, it writes like E and then it goes Ron, like Ron. And if I say Iran, then it does it properly. Or if I say Iraq, it does it right. But if I say Iraq, it does not do it. It writes R-O-C-K. It does A-R-O-C-K.
Or Iran, it does I, and then like another word is ran. But it's supposedly, not supposedly, it is pronounced Iran and Iraq, not Iraq and Iran.
um which is you know how the folks do it anyways so um she got her ass handed to her over what she's doing with the department of homeland security and specifically what she's doing with these ice goons that are out on the streets for which she will take no responsibility and not admit any wrongdoing that she did anything wrong she must be perfect but i got to tell you did you guys see
this today. Hello, London in the house. Did you guys Persia's here too? I someone said they're in Persia. But do you say Persia? Does anybody who's in Persia actually say Persia? It's pretty. It's Persia. Says Oh, someone said it is Persia. Okay, so listen, does anyone love you from Australia? Hello, Australia. Hello, Michael Taylor.
australia and yeah anyways thank you hi for london uk thank glad that you're there okay good um so did you guys watch it today now let me just tell you all of this is reportedly allegedly right reportedly allegedly so you know have you ever heard of corey lewandowski now this is a tea this should have been on hot topics because i should have a some tea here You've heard of Corey Lewandowski.
Corey Lewandowski was Donald Trump's first campaign manager. Do you remember that? And then they fired him. He had a falling out and then he became a CNN contributor. And then he left there and then he became buddy buddies with Trump again. And he went back to the Trump administration and allegedly had an affair while he was there. Is that public knowledge? Let me just look before I say that.
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Chapter 2: What were the main points of contention in Noem's testimony?
All right, go on. Every single day is to protect this country and to make decisions. If someone is asking if you or any federal official is sleeping with their subordinate, that should be the easiest. You should be wanting to answer that question. Because it is not about your sex life. It is about your judgment. It is about reclaiming my time so that I can hear myself.
Time belongs to the gentlelady from California. Let her respond. I will. I want to let you know it is about your judgment and decision making. It is about the 260,000 employees that work under you that want to make sure that you are giving information and making decisions clearly. It is about conflict of interest. It is about a national security risk.
Department of Homeland Security was created right after 9-11 to protect the homeland. And DHS has circulated an internal bulletin to law enforcement partners warning that the conflict of the war we're in could inspire lone actors or small-scale cyber activity inside the United States, according to a memo obtained by ABC News. So American lives are at risk. The people who work for you are at risk.
And they want to know that the person at the top You are making decisions clearly without any sort of cloudiness and that they're your decisions because you're the secretary who was confirmed. That's what this is about. Saving the lives of Americans and not costing them millions of dollars and not having a secretary who's compromised in her decision making. She should have just yelled the Dow.
No, but seriously, someone says, Don, you are so black. Yes, I am, of course. But you know how I would have answered that question. Like, girl, sit your ass down. I'm not answering that question. Get out of here. Next, next. Didn't I tell you to move on? Didn't I tell you to move on? I told you to move on, right? Now, maybe if that was trying to hide something, that might be my answer.
But if I wasn't trying to hide anything, it would be, First of all, I'm going to answer that. The answer is no, but let me tell you something about yourself. Are you having an affair? Are you jealous or something? You know, it would be something. I would answer the question though, especially if it was not true. But she knows the rumors. She knows the rumors and she knows what people are saying.
And you know, people, y'all know this, you know this. Where, where there's smoke. Usually. Usually. The usual is that there is some fire. Now, you guys saw the guy sitting next to her. Do you have that clip, Andy? You saw the guy sitting next to her, but just show the last clip that we had. Put that back up. And so the guy sitting next to her is Jared Moskowitz.
If you put that clip up, Andy, and just freeze it. The guy sitting next to her, see him? That's Jared Moskowitz. And you see how he's looking. He's just very engaged, very engaged right there, right? And then Jared Moskowitz was, I believe, next or somewhere in succession after the Congresswoman, this Congresswoman Dove, okay? Here's Jared Moskowitz.
You've called Corey Lewandowski a special government employee. I understand what government means. I understand what employee means, okay? But I don't know what makes him special. Now, I want to give you an opportunity to answer on the record to Ms. Kamlager-Dove's question.
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Chapter 3: How did lawmakers react to Noem's responses?
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Before I talk about them, I'm going to bring in the person that is going to help me discuss it, and that is Kurt Bardella. Kurt Bardella is the author of the Watchdog Report on Substack and the former spokesperson and senior advisor for Republicans on the House Oversight Committee. And he is now a Democrat. He joined us yesterday to talk about Texas.
Maybe perhaps we'll get a moment to discuss that. But let's talk about this. And let's put up the headline here as it relates to one Pam Bondi, the New York Times. Pam Bondi subpoenaed. Judgment Day, baby. Judgment Day. And then here's Scott McFarland of CBS on Pam Bondi being subpoenaed. The breaking news, the U.S. House Oversight Committee has just subpoenaed U.S.
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Chapter 4: What allegations were made against Corey Lewandowski?
Thank you, Dean Adal. And you say, look, I'm wondering if this is some turning point. Go on. So this is an interesting point because she's absolutely right about this. The format matters. We saw what can happen. We've seen it today with Kristi Noem even, how in a public hearing, members are constrained by the so-called five-minute rule, where you only get five minutes to ask a question.
It volleys back and forth from Republican to Democrat. The witness can just kind of pontificate in monologue and pushback. and it's all theater. We never get any real answers in public congressional hearings. Depositions are different. There's no time limit here. We just saw released eight hours of deposition footage of former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
You have to sit there all day long and answer the question. She could sit there and try that shtick again, and they can sit there and go, okay, that's nice. Now answer the question. And they can ask her that over and over and over. And it is much harder to filibuster in a closed-door deposition the way that it is in a public hearing. So the format is incredibly important.
And she is, again, getting these answers, not just what about the Epstein files and what do you know about the Epstein files, but it's who told you? to remove these files? Who told you? Has anyone at the White House instructed you? Have you had any conversations with the president about this? Why were these files available on this date and today they're gone? Where was this report?
Every single piece of documents and evidence that has entered the public domain that has mysteriously disappeared or been inappropriately redacted, she doesn't have to answer for all of it. It is an immense volume of information that we're talking. And the potential for her, to commit perjury or to lie, to get caught lying. It is very high risk.
And as we've seen from today, Republicans aren't going to bail her out of this one. This isn't just a partisan thing where the Republican members will throw you softballs. And the Republican members that don't want to be involved in this, they simply won't show up. We saw that with the Wexler deposition. Not a single Republican showed up to that deposition for less.
All of them made the trip down to New York to do that for Clinton. But if you're a Republican and you don't want to carry Pam Bondi's water, you just don't show up to it. So you are left at the mercy of whoever shows up. Every Democrat's going to show up. The five or six Republicans who voted with them to subpoena Pam Bondi, they'll show up. She's not going to be able to hide behind format.
Is she going to be able to do this? Roll it, Andy. The Dow is over $50,000. I don't know why you're laughing. You're a great stock trader as I hear Raskin. The Dow is over 50,000 right now. The S&P at almost 7,000 and the NASDAQ smashing records. Americans 401ks and retirement savings are booming. That's what we should be talking about. We should be talking about making Americans safe.
We should be talking. Is she going to be able to do that, Kurt? She could point to the stock market and the next question would be, well, that's nice. Now answer the damn question because this is a deposition. I mean, she is trapped. Kurt, I would love for you – I was going to say, by the way, this is just the beginning.
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Chapter 5: Why is Kristi Noem facing questions about her leadership?
Because she definitely helped him. So I don't know why his people didn't hand out her stuff. But she literally had no presence. And I'm telling you, I saw people who were out there flipping people's minds as they were walking in to vote. Like, even if you call somebody, you don't know if they're going to go vote. But if they're walking to the poll to vote, they're voting. You got a chance, right?
You got a chance to change them. And so those are the opportunities I'm talking about. So Voter suppression may really be an issue in Dallas, but I am telling you, despite all that, despite her getting in the race late, She could have still won, but she did not have a ground game. She did not reach out to Black media. She did not reach out to Black state reps.
For the most part, Black people in Texas are concentrated in two places, for the most part, Houston and Dallas. And almost all of the Black state reps are in Houston and Dallas and some in East Texas, like Port Arthur and Beaumont. And there's one in San Antonio. We represent the Black people. If you reach out to us and ask us, hey, TOBC, can you guys talk to me about supporting me?
I'm almost certain most of us would have said, yeah, we'll tell our people to vote for you. Like we gotta have people at the polls anyway. that was a missed opportunity. Like I didn't receive one call from her and I talked to other colleagues. They didn't receive any calls from her. How do you do that? I don't understand. I don't, I don't understand that. I was just like, what is going on?
Like, well, let me just say this. Go ahead. Go ahead. And I think there's a war right now going on with young people and older people. And here's what I think. Young people receive all their information from social media. And they think that social media alone will win an election.
No, it won't, because there are dinosaurs or older people who don't receive their information from their phone, who want a piece of mail that they can take into the poll with them, who want to take notes, who are not, they don't like like anime campaign commercials. When I saw her campaign commercial, I was, Like, what is it saying? I mean, I didn't know if she was saying she was a superhero.
I didn't think that the commercial that I saw on Beyond the Gates would appeal to older people. You can say what you want to say about older people. Older people will vote. So you can't try to force older people to receive information like young people. It's not going to work.
And so I don't think that there was a respect for retail politics the way it's always been done and them trying to shove what younger people do now. And I don't know if you agree with me. No, I wanted to know your opinion. I mean, and I see people that are agreeing with you.
And the thing is, is that, Representative Jones, you know, that's why people, even in your own party, are afraid of you, because you can't be bought. You tell the truth. You speak your truth that you see. And that's what I love about you, is that you speak the truth as you see it, without fear or favor, whether someone likes it or not. And I have that very same quality.
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Chapter 6: What implications does Noem's testimony have for her political future?
No one knocked on our doors saying, hey, Do you know where you're going to vote? Do you know that they changed the law? The Republicans changed the law. So how you voted in every election up until now is different now. And if you show up somewhere else, your vote's not going to count. They didn't do that. This is their backyard.
If you were going to win this election, you had to carry DFW and Houston big time, especially in early voting. And she didn't do the job because she didn't put in the work. Does he not have the money? May I say something really quickly? He hit the nail on the head. Let me tell you something. When I won this seat initially, I had a special election and I had a primary election.
Hell, before I ran for the special election, I didn't know what a special election was. I had to learn the rules of a special election. I literally had three races in a matter of less than two months. And they were separate because we gerrymandered and we had different districts. And I was trying to figure out, hell, I'm confused.
So on every piece of mail I sent out, I said, hey, man, you got to do the Jolanda two-step. You got to vote for me twice in order for me to win. You're going to vote for me this first time, and it's for the primary. You got to vote for me this second time, and it's for the runoff. I drill that into my constituents in my mail so that they knew I got to vote for her twice.
In my radio spots, do the Jolanda two-step. You have to explain stuff because I knew. I knew that if I didn't understand the shit, and I'm a pretty informed voter, that regular people weren't. So by the time it was time for them to vote for me, for all those times, they freaking voted for me. So after the first one, they knew that's not it. In order for me to win, I got to vote for her.
And they did none of that. None of it. My radio come on. Yeah. Yeah. OK, but I want to get I wonder how much the momentum going into the final stretch of the election. Did that have anything to do with Colbert? I don't know, because that was a very huge story and a very big appearance.
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Chapter 7: How does this testimony reflect broader political issues?
You're welcome. I was mad at them. You know, I would have been on your legal team if you wanted me to. I was hotter than fish grease. True story. I was like, they fucking with Don, I'm about to fuck with them. Ah, yeah. You know I do criminal defense, right? I know. So I was ready to go after them like a heat-seeking missile. Did you do private investigations? Dude, I'm a lawyer.
I'm a criminal defense lawyer. Most times my clients don't have money. So guess what? I do some hood board hire and all kinds of stuff and I win cases. So I was ready. Look, I was 10 tones down with you. True story. Thank you.
Look, some people may have been, some people on the chat, I believe, and who are watching may be a bit surprised about your take on what happened with Jasmine Crockett or what happened in Texas. But that's, you call it as you see it. And so I appreciate that. I ain't received nothing. Not even a phone call. So, I mean, what you want me to do? Yeah. Thank you very much for that.
State Representative Jelanda Jones, a Democrat serving Texas 147th District in the Lone Star State's House of Representatives. Kurt Bardella is the author of the Watchdog Report on Substack and the former spokesperson and senior advisor for Republicans on the House Oversight Committee. He's now a Democrat. Real quick, if you guys can give me a very quick answer, just lightning round.
Kurt, do Democrats have a chance in Texas in November? Absolutely, they do. They do. Listen, Cornyn and Paxson are going to spend the next 12 weeks beating the shit out of each other, spending all their money, while Tallarico gets to just coast, raise money, elevate his profile, stay above the fray, build his name ID up across the state, and look like a statesman. I say yes, maybe.
Because remember what happened with Jesse Jackson when he ran? And I'll just say that. Are people going to kiss and make up and work for each other? Because now, Black people were inspired by Jasmine Crockett, Shantana Moe, So which means there's going to have to be some kind of meeting of the minds between white progressives and black people. Yeah.
People don't want to hear that, but it is what it is. Well, y'all better get it done. Keep hope alive in Texas. In honor of Jesse. Because y'all are somebody. We are somebody. Thank you. Thank you, guys. I'll see you soon. If you want to know anything about the Don Lemon Show, it's all right here on DonLemon.com. DonLemon.com at the top. Everyone is asking me about this.
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