Lemon LIVE at 5 | MAGA Blames The Left for Charlie Kirk's Death - September 11th, 2025

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What happened at the Charlie Kirk shooting and what are the known facts so far?

Don Lemon 0:17
Good evening, everybody. Welcome to Lemon Live at 5 on another day of serious breaking news. There's more fallout, and it's actually frightening, I believe. This whole Charlie Kirk thing, Charlie Kirk being shot, awful that he was shot. But the way Republicans are responding to it and right-wingers, social media influencers, media, politicians, it is shocking. Some of them are calling for war. Language that should not be used. That language that is not helpful. You guys know that conservative activist influencer Charlie Kirk was shot at an event in Utah yesterday at a university there. The manhunt is still going on for the killer. There was a press conference earlier today that was abruptly canceled due to rapidly changing details.
Don Lemon 1:12
or something like that. The FBI has released images of a person of interest sought in connection with the shooting. This is the person of interest that they believe they caught in the building, one of the buildings on campus. And then according to investigators, that person, well, this is a person of interest, but the person who shot Charlie Kirk and killed him, whoever it is, then fled into the woods behind the university. And then investigators recovered a rifle, and they say they have a palm print, and they're working on other information. I want to bring in now someone to talk about this, and you know him, D.L. Hughley, my friend. One of the most influential people, I believe, of our time right now, especially when it comes to informing people.
Don Lemon 2:03
D.L., thank you for joining us. Thank you, sir. You've seen the outrage from the right. And look, again, nobody is saying that, oh, my gosh, we're happy that this happened to Charlie Kirk. Nobody. I don't believe in political violence. However, the right is saying, well, this is war.
D.L. Hughley 2:23
And you liberals are killers. What was it when the two... when the one congresswoman was murdered along with her husband in Minnesota and another congressman. See, because it is a thing. Now, bantering the word assassination around Charlie Kirk was not a political figure. I mean, he might have been influential to political figures. He wasn't a political figure. He wasn't assassinated. He was shot. He was shot. And that's unfortunate. Fortunately, that happens to far too many people. But those other two congressmen, they were political figures and they were shot because of their political beliefs. And it's always like we can only have empathy for people if we relate to them, if we spark to them, if we have a tribal connection to them.
D.L. Hughley 3:06
It is a shame. And the thing that makes me. The angriest about this is I always swore that I would never cede my humanity to anybody or any other situation, but that's getting more and more difficult to do because I don't, I certainly don't believe a young man 31 years old should have lost his life. But Charlie, Charlie Cook was a horrible human being. He said horribly incendiary thing. As a matter of fact, he died, the very last words he spoke were basically putting the onus of gun violence on gangs, which is synonymous with black people. He blamed the very way he died was lying about black people with his last breath. And I just think the best thing I can say is that I hope he believed what he was saying.
D.L. Hughley 3:57
I hope he believed that lives being lost were worth it so the second amendment could persevere. I hope he believed that there should be a lack of empathy. He was parsing between sympathy. Sympathy means we have a similarity. Empathy means I have nothing to do with you, but I can still feel your pain as a human being. And I think, I hope he believed all the rhetoric he espoused because if not, that was certainly an empty, vacant way to live and certainly a horrible way to die.
Don Lemon 4:23
Speaking of, here is Charlie Kirk on Empathy.
Michael Fanone 4:29
Instead, it is to say you're actually not in pain. So let's just a little very short clip. Bill Clinton in the 1990s, it was all about empathy and sympathy. I can't stand the word empathy. Actually, I think empathy is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage, but it is very effective when it comes to politics.

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