Lemon LIVE at 5 | SHOOTER RAGES AT MEDIA! - December 10th, 2024
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Hello and welcome. You know what that boomer music is that you hear at the top of the broadcast. Tim Miller's here. I'll explain why he's here in just a moment. Welcome to the Don Lemon Show. We're so glad that you're here. Lots to talk about. Here's what we're going to cover. The latest updates on the arrest of suspected CEO shooter Luigi Mangione. The dark Internet celebration of that assassination of the CEO. Disgraced Congressman Matt Gaetz career pivot. Interesting. Pete Hegseth's ongoing confirmation battle and Democrats governance strategy for the next four years. Lots of ground to cover. Fortunately, today I have someone who can handle it all and more is the legendary Tim Miller, the host of the Bulwark podcast, co-host of the Next Level podcast and MSNBC contributor and a great friend to the show.
Thank you for joining. You're in New Orleans, right?
What's up, Don? I'm in New Orleans. I'm excited. We've got Matt Gaetz is a new competitor of ours now, I guess. I guess he's a new competitor. I guess we have to consider him a peer and a competitor.
Can you? I mean, it's so... That is a... Look, I think I have a weird career arc. So do you. Yeah. Which I want to talk to you about. But I mean, this one is... I think that's the weirdest.
I mean, it's strange that you had two doors. One door is Attorney General of the United States of America. The other door is... One America's News outlet anchor.
Yeah, but you forgot about one of those doors ends with a clink.
There's nothing in the middle, no middle ground there. I don't know, very strange.
All right, let's get to it, because I know that you are a very busy man, and I am really grateful that you're here. So listen, and in Rage, can we talk about this guy? And we're going to talk, you know, the whole sort of sexy criminal thing, which is bizarre to me. That and more. And enraged, Luigi Mangione screamed at reporters outside a Pennsylvania courthouse before being sent to New York to face murder charges for killing the UnitedHealthcare CEO, Brian Thompson. Let's play it, and then you'll react to it. Here it is.
Down, down.
Please be out of touch and insult the intelligence of the American people and the black experience.
So that was him. Look, I had a little bit of trouble hearing the last part. And for those of you who missed it, he said it is completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and their lived experience. So presumably, Tim, I think at first I thought he was talking about CEOs, but I think maybe he was talking about the media's coverage of society writ large. That's unclear. What do you think?
I don't know. I do think the phrase lived experience is out of vogue and is a red flag for me in 2024. Experience is good enough. That was a popular phrase for a while. I think we can move past that. As far as Luigi, man. I might feel bad for him. He's a murderer, so I don't feel bad for his actions. But he clearly, in that video, seems troubled. It's possibly that I think we should be open to the fact that somebody has had a psychotic break. I mean, he went missing. His mother reported him missing, I guess, back in November. And so I don't know that we should take like too literally everything that he's saying. I mean, he put out this manifesto. I hate calling it a manifesto. It's like two pages. It's like a mini, mini little manifesto.
And it is not, you know, I don't know. This doesn't seem to be like somebody who has their head on straight, obviously, given his actions. And so I think that there are some that want to like project their own
uh political mission onto this person and use him as an as like a robin hood figure and i i'm not sure that that is quite correct you don't think he's it's a robin hood figure apparently upset uh over the gilded age and the billionaires who own everything i mean look that's no excuse for for killing someone but um
And listen, he's a rich kid, okay? So he's a rich kid. He's richer than the CEO, I think his family is. Yeah. And so he's a rich kid and his family's in the healthcare industry, as best I can tell.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:24–7:34
2
What happened in the arrest of Luigi Mangione and what did he shout at reporters?
7:34–11:30
3
Was Luigi Mangione motivated by political grievance or mental illness?
11:30–24:43
4
Why did social media celebrate the CEO assassination and how concerning is that sentiment?
24:43–31:25
5
Why are people sexualizing and 'thirsting' over the suspected shooter online?
31:25–45:54
6
What did Bill Burr and other commentators say about public empathy for victims versus corporate wrongdoing?
45:54–53:20