GLP-1 Drugs & Bariatric Surgery Explained by a Top Obesity Researcher | Dr. David Allison
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
We keep saying to people, this will help you, this will help you, and either they don't help at all, or they help a very small amount. Somebody who has never studied obesity, who has never studied nutrition, who's never read a paper on any of these topics, give you their very strong and convicted opinion.
that if you're on this grapefruit diet, you'll never be hungry again.
What is Dr. David Allison's background in obesity research?
You mean those kind of fad type... Just eat between this time and this time.
I see. Just eat whole fruits and vegetables. Just eat high volume. Just eat low carb. Just eat low fat.
How can we differentiate between principles and scientific data?
Just eat all natural food. Don't eat ultra processed. Do you think there's danger in that? I think it misleads people tremendously. Wastes huge amounts of time.
What is doubly-labeled water and why is it significant?
Wastes huge amounts of resources. you're distracting them from potentially doing the thing that might be helpful.
What misconceptions exist regarding diet and nutrition?
People will say, well, just trust the science. Do we need to trust the science?
It's a process, absolutely. But if you said to me, do you trust a lot of the science that comes out around dietary supplements?
No. Is there anything that you think that we've gotten really, really wrong?
Here's the thing. You don't have to learn a lot of nutrition.
What is the impact of childhood obesity on health?
You don't have to understand what protein is. You don't have to know what a carbohydrate is. All you gotta do is this.
How did you get involved in what you're doing now? Because you occupy a very unique lane.
Your question is an enjoyable one for me because it allows me to sort of think about tying the two paths of my life together. And I think one of them is it's just who I am.
Can we truly trust the science behind obesity treatments?
You know, I sometimes get asked, how did you choose to become a scientist? And I say, there's no choice. Choice had nothing to do with it. I never chose to become a scientist. Uh, from the earliest I can remember as a little kid, when I could speak, I would ask questions. I was the kid in the backyard who liked to turn over the rock and say, what's under here? How did it get there? What does it do? How does it eat?
What are the safety considerations regarding weight loss drugs?
How does it live? And sometimes people would give me answers, adults. And then I often had the temerity to say, how do you know? And are you sure? which didn't always please adults, and it doesn't always please them today when I say things like that. But it does tend to please people who are true scientists in this period, because that's what scientists do. They ask those questions. And so that's part of me. It's one part joy and wonder, and it's one part rigor and hard-mindedness.
And you grew up in Long Island. Correct. You grew up in Long Island. And then where did you do your training?
So I did my undergraduate at Vassar College. And I'll just take a very brief pause there to mention two things about Vassar. One is that it's a place really of spirited open-mindedness. And so I really learned to be open-minded and to think about things wildly. And I took a course as a sophomore called Human Emotion and Motivation. And in it, we studied the work of Stanley Schachter. It was built around his work, who was a psychology professor at Columbia at the time. And he had a book called Emotion, Obesity, and Crime, in which he tied those ideas together. And I always admired his experimental approach. It was very novel and creative. And so that got me hooked into obesity research. That was the awe, the wonder, the joy, the thrill of discovery.
Was obesity – and when was this? Was this in – because obesity – Early 1980s. Okay, so in the 80s. So this was right when the obesity epidemic probably started taking shape and had a name.
At least was perceived to be taking shape. Ah, interesting. Okay. It was taking shape a few hundred years earlier at least.
Okay.
So anyway, I got hooked in that. The other thing about Vassar was it's very focused on writing. So I wrote lots and lots of papers. And every course I took, I had to write a paper. And so I found that it was easier if I could write a paper on the same topic, but from a different angle. And so when I took physiologic psychology, I'd write about obesity from a physiologic angle. And when I took developmental, I'd write from a developmental angle.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:21
2
What is Dr. David Allison's background in obesity research?
0:21–0:32
3
How can we differentiate between principles and scientific data?
0:32–0:40
4
What is doubly-labeled water and why is it significant?
0:40–0:45
5
What misconceptions exist regarding diet and nutrition?
0:45–1:09
6
What is the impact of childhood obesity on health?
1:09–1:41
7
Can we truly trust the science behind obesity treatments?
1:41–2:07
8
What are the safety considerations regarding weight loss drugs?
2:07–1:35:11
Speakers
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