Chapter 1: What are the most commented calls of 2025?
These are the calls that we picked that caused the most dust up in comment sections. Tell me about that.
People had some thoughts about these calls. So listeners, these are your fault.
We have been in an affair now for the last probably eight months or so.
It is New Year's Eve. And if you're with us, I'm super glad you are here. Or if it's gone into the new year and you're just getting a download of this show, you're driving home from something, you're waking up wondering what couch you're sleeping, wherever you happen to find yourself, I'm glad that you're here. Happy New Year. Like all of us, 2025 was a bit on the... ...chaotic side.
Chapter 2: How does a New Year's Eve perspective influence personal reflection?
And I'm... I don't know. I get accused of being... pessimistically optimistic about everything. Like it's all coming down, but it's going to be fine. And so I'm pessimistically optimistic that 2026 is going to be the year we transform and that we make things right on a grand scale. But I know this.
We probably can't all affect much of that stuff, but we can affect the things in our own hearts and our own heads and our own families and our own homes and our own marriages and our own kids and with our own friends. So we're going to start there. I'm glad that you're with us. So this show is a special Kelly 2.0, I mean, divided by two, Kelly 1.0.
Chapter 3: What is the significance of the greatest hits format in this episode?
You're the square root of Kelly 2.0. You're like the horse-covered buggy, and she's a Tesla. It's okay.
Wow. What's, like, New Year, New John? Come on.
No, it's not New Year's yet. It's New Year's Eve. Tomorrow, man, New Year, new me, totally. Kindness.
I'm looking forward to tomorrow.
I'm sure you are. All right, so this is the best of. These are three shows, three calls.
We call them the greatest hits here.
Greatest hits. Oh yeah, I got greatest hits. That's awesome. It's the greatest hits of 2025. These are the calls that we picked that caused the most dust up in comment sections.
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Chapter 4: How can one navigate the complexities of an affair?
Tell me about that.
Well, normally our calls get, I don't know, a couple hundred, maybe five or six hundred comments. These calls got— Got thousands and thousands. Yeah, so like 3,500, 5,500, and one of them got 8,500 comments. So these—people had some thoughts about these calls. So listeners, these are your fault or you did this or however you want to put it. But y'all have spoken.
For whatever reason, these caused drama. Or strong feelings, which in return caused more strong feelings. And so we're going to run them back. We put them all in one episode. This is 2025's greatest hits. Three calls guaranteed to get you and those in the car with you right now talking. Buckle up. Thanks for joining us on the best of 2025 episode and make good choices tomorrow.
Let's go right down the street here in Nashville, Tennessee, and talk to Will. What's up, Will? How we doing, man? Hey, John. How's it going? I'm doing all right, brother. What's up?
Hey, so I got a quick question for you here. I kind of got myself in a little bit of predicament, and so I'll just get right into it. My wife and I, we've been married for about five years, and... In that time frame, I was able to reconnect with a friend of mine that I had made – a male friend of mine that I had made after high school and whatnot.
Started to kind of hang out with him and found out kind of through hanging out with him that his wife kind of made a pass at me. And we have been in an affair now for the last probably – eight months or so. Um, we've obviously talked about, uh, just about everything under the sun. And I guess I'm trying to figure out, um, you know, if I, am I interested in this person?
Um, or is it just the thrill of having an affair and, and doing something obviously that, you know, you're not supposed to do. Um, and so I'm trying to, trying to figure out how to figure that out because, you know, I just want a little bit of advice on trying to how to progress forward with that.
Oh, man. So let me just walk it back and you can just tell me up or down. So you are sleeping with a great friend's wife. Correct. Does your friend know? He does not.
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Chapter 5: What advice does John give to someone in a marital crisis?
Does your wife know? She does not. And so you're not calling me to ask like, oh God, I've blown up my life and my wife's life. And I've blown up one of my close buddy's lives. It's not why you're calling. You're calling to ask, is this true love or not?
I'm calling to ask because, you know, in the time that I've chatted with this person, you know, we've obviously we've we've talked a lot more about the just the physical nature of of things. And, you know, there's been times where we both had the idea that, you know, our lives potentially could be better with that other person. But obviously, that's not something that I, you know, want to.
I don't want to jump into something or I don't want to technically pursue something. And then turns out it was just because of the thrill of an affair. I mean, my wife and I, we've had our struggles and our issues pre the involvement of the affair or my friend almost called it off a few different times. So, yeah.
So I guess the best thing I could tell you or the right thing I could tell you is you are so... It's like you're watching The Lion King. You're watching like a Disney movie in the theater. And you're watching these animals all talking to each other. And you're wondering what it would be like to talk to one of those animals too. Okay. You're...
Your questions are so divorced from the reality with which you actually find yourself that it tells me that you've had to construct a world where this is okay and there's a world that everything's going to be okay on the other end of this because if you didn't have that kind of psychological moat around what you're actually doing, you would implode because you become somebody that you could never have imagined you would be.
You're sleeping with one of your closest friend's wives, period. You're actively for over a year having sex with somebody that's not your wife, putting her at physical danger, putting her at grave emotional danger. I mean, like, and what you're thinking about is, man, isn't this going to be wonderful on the other side of this thing? It's kind of like watching...
It's like you're in Los Angeles right now watching your house burn down and wondering where you're going to put the new kitchen during the rebuild. Right. Like you're not absorbing reality. And so, number one, no place in this conversation are we talking about are these feelings real or not.
Not until we've looked your wife in the eye and said, I've blown our marriage up and I don't want to be with you anymore. Not until you've looked your buddy in the eye and said, I've been sleeping with your wife for a year and I'm sorry. And after the ash settles back to earth, after that conversation, those conversations, then you can ask yourself, okay, are we in a relationship?
Are we going to try to build this thing and move forward together? Which the percentages on that, just scientifically, the percentages of those relationships being successful are very, very, very low. Right. Because then the old bumper sticker, like, it's true. Somewhere, somebody else is tired of her too. And you also, right? Like y'all get, y'all just living in a fantasy world.
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Chapter 6: How do underlying issues affect relationships?
Y'all have to, y'all are skipping all of that. So until you anchor back into Earth, any conversations you'll have are just fantasy. They're just Disney movies. They're not real. Why haven't you sat down and had that conversation with your wife yet?
So we've been obviously dealing, like I had previously stated, we had been dealing with our own, obviously, struggles.
Yeah, but you took struggle every marriage has to. I've had nightmarish struggles. You went the next step.
Right. So I haven't sat down and talked with her about it because I guess I'm kind of put it in my mind that if this marriage that I have with my wife were to potentially fail, that I didn't want this reasoning of what's going on.
Bro, you have failed it. Like, you're the failure. You get what I'm saying? Right. And I'm sure she's got her own challenges. I'm not saying she's perfect, but... Right. Like, you're actively sleeping with your buddy's wife. You're like, well, if this thing doesn't work right, it's like you're the one that's not working right in it. You get what I'm saying?
Right. No, I'm aware of that part. What I'm saying is that, like, obviously... our marriage pre this had obviously its problems. We're trying, we were trying to, you know, work on those things.
And I obviously made the mistake initially and, you know, her and I, we haven't engaged in anything in a while because obviously I'm taking a step back, but it's also one of those that it's at the point where I feel like in order to Build with my wife, if that's what her and I choose to do, then I need to obviously be upfront and honest with her about everything that has happened.
And if I do that, then.
Bro, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. You're like. I'm really close to compassionate for you right now. I'm frustrated with you. I'm angry with you. But I'm also compassionate because I think you have created a delusion that you live in. I wouldn't disagree with that. You use these huge circular, well, you know, and then we might. Listen to me so carefully.
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Chapter 7: What steps can couples take to rebuild trust?
Maybe. Who knows? Is she having an affair too? I would doubt it.
Okay.
Obviously, I don't know. And then you ask your friend, I'm going to meet you in a diner here in Nashville. We got to talk. Or you tell the woman you're having an affair with, hey, you got 24 hours because I got to come clean with my buddy. I've become somebody that I never dreamed I would be. And I have to stop.
I think that's where I've been struggling because it's like I have gotten far down the road, obviously. And I think in my mind, I have this delusion that there is a different path out besides going back.
There's not a way to land the plane. There is no going back. But your fantasy about how this plane lands is false, too. Both are true. So there's no going back. You blew it up. The boat's gone. You and your wife might choose to swim to shore amid all the rubble and rebuild a new boat. That happens all the time. And I'll walk with you if that's what y'all want to do.
You and this other person have a sliver, teeny tiny sliver of statistical probability that you You've blown up your life. She's blown up hers. And y'all choose to build a boat together on whatever shore y'all swim to. Maybe. But you'll always wonder if she's sleeping with somebody else like she did with you. And vice versa. It's very shaky ground to build a new thing. But it happens.
But there is no like... then you have a hard conversation with your wife and she's like, well, I don't really want to work on this. And you're like, that's cool. I already have a four bedroom, three bath house with somebody else. And her, your buddy, her husband is like, ah, well, it didn't work out this time. That's just not how this ends, man. Right.
And so the quicker you can re anchor to reality and from a place from the inside out, because dude, you have, you have created a verbal connection. gymnastic studio that you just swirl around and ride the monkey bars in, but your feet never touch the ground. You've got to be able to look yourself in the mirror and say, dude, I blew my life up. Like, do you feel that?
Uh, I think, like, like I hear no, I hear no remorse. No, like, yeah, yeah, well,
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Chapter 8: How can individuals set goals for the New Year after a crisis?
Right. Except that choice is going to be anchored into styrofoam because you know, oh, she's capable of blowing this whole thing up at any time. And I am too. And she'll know that about you. That's why statistically speaking, it's very unlikely that it continues. But again, it's part of this psychological construct you're trying to build.
Like your plane is going down and you're trying to like figure out the right way to pull the cushions off of the airplane seats so you'll land comfortably. It's not going to happen. So what I'll tell you is at the end of this thing, there's a fire. You can do a control burn right now and try. Or you can just wait until the whole thing goes up in smoke, but it's going to catch fire.
It's already on fire.
Yeah, I think I've just spent too much time dancing around and trying to figuring out how to make the fire as small as possible when in reality the focus should be on that the fire is happening regardless.
And I need you to internalize in your guts. Your house has already burned to the ground. Hers too. They're gone. They're over. The marriage you had is over. The marriage she had is over. The little play time y'all have together is over. Y'all have to decide what we're going to build next. But, bro, you've got to come back and re-anchor the ground, man. You've blown your life up.
And you've blown her life up. And she's blown her life up. I mean, I don't know a way that you're going to sleep all night. I don't know a way that you're going to have peace at all. Until you sit down and have a conversation with your wife. Until you let her know you've got 24 hours and I've got to come clean with my buddy. because I'm not going to be this guy anymore.
And there's a high statistical probability that when the smoke clears, you've got nobody. You've got no friend. You've got no girlfriend. You've got no wife. That's a high, high probability. And then you'll have to choose to do the next right thing amid that ash. But man, stop with the verbal gymnastics. Stop with the, are these feelings real? Start with...
I've cheated on you, and I blew her life up. I've been doing it for almost a year now. Through the holidays, through your birthdays, I was seeing somebody else. I was sleeping with our friend. Let's start there. We'll be right back. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. I want to talk about traditions.
Traditions are things you do every week or every year, and they can be great, or they can be a heavy obligation. The holiday season is a great time to reflect on holiday traditions, the valuable ones and the not so valuable ones, and even the painful ones. Therapy can give you space to think about the old traditions that may not be serving you anymore and consider how you might create new ones.
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