We Never Thought We’d Speak Again | Part 2

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How did we find our way back?

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What was the Mother’s Day message that changed everything?

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How did discovering we were pregnant at the same time affect our friendship?

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Ella May Ding 0:31
This is the Pivotal Connections podcast.

What was the worst breakup we went through and what did it teach us?

Ella May Ding 0:35
How did we get here? We should talk about that.
Domenica Calarco 0:38
Oh, how did we get here? Well, I mean, we're mums now.

How did our daughters meeting for the first time change our relationship?

Domenica Calarco 0:41
Mums. And I think that has a big thing to do with why
Ella May Ding 0:45
we're here.

How did pregnancy, separation, and health issues shape our lives?

Ella May Ding 0:45
Yeah. Really. And this is the first time I've like flown into state without my daughter and like been away. It's like really weird. Yeah. But I'm glad we didn't bring them because. It would have been so hectic. That wouldn't I mean it just wouldn't work.

What is the reality of online judgement for new mothers?

Domenica Calarco 0:59
No, it wouldn't work. No. I'm already I I and I can assume you're just all thinking about pair as at all at the same time as what you're trying to do right now. Yeah. 'Cause I'm just thinking about Dove, what's she doing? Like uh his mum giving her lunch. Like what you know,
Ella May Ding 1:11
did
Domenica Calarco 1:11
she
Ella May Ding 1:11
poo?

How does loneliness in motherhood impact mental health?

Ella May Ding 1:11
But thank God for mother in laws and your mum? Yes. That we can actually But we can do this. Exactly. Yeah. So two years later, we're sitting here Um, I remember waking up, I think it was Like a Friday morning, I'd woken up to all these DMs. And I was like, this only ever happens if someone's like talking shit or like I'd only wake up with all these notifications if something's bad's happened. And I got all these DMs from people saying, why haven't you replied? You should reply. Like coming for me. And I'm like, what the fuck is everyone talking about? What haven't I replied to? And then I asked my partner, I was like, has Dom done something about me? And then he's like, I don't know, babe. Like, doesn't matter.
Ella May Ding 2:02
And I'm like, well, I feel like it does matter because people are telling me to reply to something. You just wanted to know what it was. I didn't say anything bad. I didn't think it was gonna be bad. No, I didn't think it was gonna be bad. And I was just Like I'm curious, I need to know what's being said because I had you blocked. Yes, I had you blocked. I had you both. Yes, we yes, and let's talk about that. I Yes, we had each other blocked, okay, everyone. Yeah. We had each other blocked because look, for and this is the same with me, out of sight, out of mind. Whoa. Exactly. Exactly. You know, it is it actually makes things easier. If you're trying to move on from an ex, which look, we fucking broke up. We broke up really
Ella May Ding 2:38
publicly. Yep. And that was going to help me move on and move forward. And it and it it did. And it did. Did
Domenica Calarco 2:46
what like that's the reason that the block button is there is there.
Ella May Ding 2:48
So did you go and see what So then I used Guy's Instagram and I was like, give me the Instagram, let's go on her page, let's watch what's happened. And you put a story up, it was a QA, and I think you I think the question was like, would you ever rekindle? Or like speak to Ella or something. Think it was like It was something to do to do with do you ever think of Ella or something? And you'd said that you'd texted me or you'd reached out um maybe a week or something prior. And I was like No, she hasn't. I have not heard from her. And then I went into my contacts and was like, Oh, she's blocked as well. Her number is I
Domenica Calarco 3:27
was in the freezer on the phone as well.
Ella May Ding 3:30
In the freezer. So I unblocked your number, and I remember sitting there thinking. The ball's in my court. Mm. But also I was like, how would she know if I've seen this? You know, m is this a way that she's trying to get to me to reach out? Is this a way because, you know, our follower we share the same followers, right? And I said to Guy, I was like, I think it was a Friday because I said to him You know, it's Mother's Day on Sunday. I'm gonna cry. I was like, it's Mother's Day on Sunday. I think I'm gonna message her on Mother's Day. I know. And he was like, I think that you should. And I was like, really? You think I should?

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