Democrats Need to Face Why Trump Won
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Why did Democrats lose the 2024 election?
From New York Times Opinion, this is The Ezra Klein Show. I've been spending some time recently with top Democrats as they think about how to rebuild after the 2024 loss. And I'll say that in the 20-some years I've been covering politics, I have never heard them so confused. Confused about who they are, aside from the opposition to Donald Trump, but confused also about how and why they lost. How could they have possibly lost this election to this person? But also, how is the Democratic Party weakening so much among groups whose strength, whose support it once took for granted? They're losing working class voters. They're seeing their margins among non-white voters erode and vanish. They're losing young voters. Something is wrong in the Democratic Party.
And so I think it's important as this conversation begins to roll forward that it is grounded on a pretty real understanding of what happened in 2024. Someone whose analysis on this have come to respect over the years is David Shore. David Shore is the head of data science at Blue Earth Research, which is a big Democratic consulting firm. It does a huge amount of political surveying and interpretation of data and testing of messaging. He works with campaigns and progressive groups. And so he has a sort of perspective from the inside there. But also over the years, I think he's just a very skilled interpreter of data. It's a very different skill, I should say. And over years where he's been making some of these arguments, he's gotten a lot of things right before other people did, including that educational polarization was becoming the central fault line for American democracy. And frankly, not just American democracy, but other countries, too.
And so when I saw Shore recently and he began walking me through some of his slides, some of the ways he was interpreting the 2024 election and trying to help people see what had happened, my first thought was this would be worth doing in public rather than this being a thing that Democrats are debating in back rooms with each other. What if we did this in public? Shor was kind enough to come on the show and present this for us. And so this episode is a bit of an experiment. He's walking me through this presentation, and I am interrogating it. It is worth watching if you can. This works in audio. You can listen to it. We describe these charts and graphs and tables. But in video, which you can see if you go to YouTube and search Ezra Klein Show and go to our channel, it has a different flavor. You can follow along visually, and I think it's worth trying to do so if you can. But I found this really, really helpful and it helped ground some of my thinking in the data. I don't necessarily have every conclusion David does, but I think it is a good place to begin.
Who is David Shor and what is Blue Rose Research?
And there's then a lot that can follow from having this conversation. As always, my email, EzraKleinShow at NYTimes.com. David Shore, welcome to the show. Excited to be here. So what do you do and why should I trust the data you're about to show us here?
How has voter turnout impacted recent elections?
I'm glad you asked. I'm the co-founder of a research firm called Blue Rose Research. We did 26 million interviews last year. We have a team of about 45 people, machine learning engineers, software engineers from companies like Google. And we've done a lot of work to try to figure out what actually happened last year.
A lot of liberals I know feel really burnt by survey data. There's a sense that nobody picks up the phone. How are you surveying these older people if you're doing it online? Putting aside the fact that you conducted a lot of surveys, why are you confident those surveys reflect reality?
The fundamental problem with survey research is just that people who answer surveys are really weird. There's kind of two ways that you can try to fix that. One is that you could try to get a normal representative set of people. That's just impossible in today's day and age. And the other is that you can just try to collect a lot of information and
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Why did Democrats lose the 2024 election?
0:05–3:09
2
Who is David Shor and what is Blue Rose Research?
3:09–3:37
3
How has voter turnout impacted recent elections?
3:37–6:54
4
What trends are observed among Hispanic and Asian voters?
6:54–13:42
5
How are young voters influencing political outcomes?
13:42–18:44
6
What role did inflation play in the 2024 election?
18:44–27:28
7
What issues do voters trust Democrats and Republicans on?
27:28–33:04
8
How can Democrats address their trust deficit on key issues?
33:04–1:17:45