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20 May 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Welcome in What's Right with Nick Wright episode 458. This episode of What's Right with Nick Wright is presented to you by Boost Mobile. Damanze, you are 27 years old. Good morning, good to see you. Good morning. And you have been really heavily following the NBA on a day-to-day basis for, I would say, since you were around 20. You were a casual fan as a teenager, which means...
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Chapter 2: What made Victor Wembanyama's performance stand out in the Spurs vs. Thunder game?
I didn't mind them getting a bad shot at the end of the shot clock when it was tied. Not at the end of regulation, but at the end of the first overtime because I thought Wimby, even though he had just hit the three, was just going to be spent. He channeled something extra. And that shot he hit from almost the exact same spot on the court that Steph Curry hit the most iconic shot of his career.
That happened to be in the regular season, but it was a Thunder Warriors game, 2016, en route to the unanimous MVP in 73-win season, when Steph also pulled up from right around 30 feet and jarred it. Wimby, who had only taken one three-all game, who had done all his work on the inside because Chet refused to guard him,
and instead he had J-Dub or Alex Caruso, and we'll get into Alex Caruso, who was brilliant. Wimby pulling up with 30 seconds left, down three in overtime, jarring that shot, and then in double overtime, adding nine more. It is quite simply the type of performance you remember forever. And... People that are high volume enough consumers of the content I produce, I think have a very good handle on
what my wimby criticisms have been or haven't been and how most of them have been more media criticisms than the as a player criticisms and most of my pumping the brakes has been about concern like just a long-term injury concern because of the body type and height and history of all of that
It's not to say I didn't take a strong run of them for the elbow to Nas Reed and some of the disagree with him on defense is 50% of winning an MVP. Those things are on the record and I stand by. But I have been not as quick as others, and this can be a compliment or an insult to me, it's just what the record is, to anoint him.
And it's because I really believe in sports, the all-time greats, the true legends, anoint themselves. And that is what he did last night. He went into the building of the, up to this point in the postseason, undefeated defending champs, watched their best guy win the award he wanted,
And then said, for these next three hours, I'm going to make it absolutely unequivocally clear who the best goddamn basketball player walking the planet is. And that's what he did. And it is going to be much like, in my opinion, LeBron took that title late May of 2007 and held that title
until Christmas Day of 2018 when he tore his groin and then briefly snatched it back the following season when they won the title again and then he got hurt again and he hasn't been the best player in the world since then but LeBron essentially held that title uninterrupted for more than a decade It's going to be hard to wrestle this thing out of Wimby's hands.
And it doesn't mean, by the way, they're going to win the championship. It doesn't even mean they're going to win this series. It does mean that last night was a line in the, not sand, a line in the concrete moment where Victor Wimbanyama officially made it clear to every team in the league that wants to win a championship, in one way or another, you're going to have to go through me.
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Chapter 3: How did SGA's performance impact the Thunder's chances?
There was at no point in the year where anyone thought Akeem was going to win MVP. But you know who thought he should have been the fucking MVP? Akeem. And in that game, Akeem Olajuwon, to steal a quote from Michael Jordan, took that personally.
And David Robinson, who's one of the 35 greatest players of all time, got absolutely annihilated to the tune of Akeem putting up 41 points, 16 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals, 2 blocks. Again, 41-16, 4-3-2. in a road win to take control of the Western Conference Finals. That was May 24th, 1995. And on May 18th, 2026, Victor Wimbanyama watched SGA be handed the MVP award.
an MVP that Shea was winning all year, and that Wimby, now that the votes are in, we saw, was never actually that close to winning. But you know who thought he should win it? Wimby. And Wimby responded with his own 41-point masterpiece. Akeem had 41-16, 4-3-2. Wimby had 41-24, 3-1-3. and a nice 30-foot three to force double overtime. It's so crazy.
Wimby, when he launched that three-pointer to Monse, he had 29 points in the game. He was having a really nice game, a good game. They looked like they were going to lose.
It was like a heat check from three-type shot.
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Right, except he had a heat check when he hadn't made a three-all game. And it was... There were 30 seconds left in overtime. He had 29 points. He finished with 41. And... Much like Akeem, he was universally regarded or is universally regarded as the best defensive player in the world. And much like Akeem...
when he has it going like that offensively, there is something, nothing you can do with him. Akeem was at the time, in my opinion, the greatest mid-range shooting big man of all time. Wimby is, you know, just different in all of it. And, you know, Akeem's 6'10 and a half, Wimby's 7'6". Um, But this is why I love sports history.
And this is why I love watching guys go on the journey of realizing their full potential. And it really is something else that Akeem, who I think it's fair to say has helped mentor Wendy. Akeem right now is universally regarded as the greatest. Well, I shouldn't say universally because some people have Joker ahead of them. They're wrong, but that's fine.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of the Spurs' victory for the NBA playoffs?
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Chapter 5: What are the key matchups to watch in the Eastern Conference Finals?
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Oh, yeah. So him and Chet kind of have a rivalry. Is it a little bit of a throwback to you having two players with actual beef, considering it's rare these days?
Well... I don't know. It appears it's one-sided.
I was just about to say, it seems like Wimby just doesn't... I don't think Chet's done anything to him.
Yeah. I do think there was an under... I'm going to get the details on this wrong, but an under-18 Olympics type of thing.
And Chet got the award. I don't know if it was like MVP of it. And Wimby did not like it.
Wimby outplayed Chet. Wimby outplayed Chet but fouled out. The U.S. beat France. And Chet got MVP with like 10 points. Wimby had like 20 and some of his team lost. And I was watching the clips of it this morning. Wimby's just like disconsolate. Yeah. I also think there is a... There can be only one like super tall, skinny... Yes. Same build. Shooter. All of it.
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Chapter 6: How does Nick Wright evaluate Stephen A. Smith's comments about Jalen Brown?
And Wimby just wants to destroy him. Yeah. And up to this point... Chet is not game for him. I mean, listen, we're going to talk about Alex Caruso during the show. Alex Caruso was brilliant on both ends, and you know how much I care about athletes getting in the gym and getting strong. Alex Caruso being as strong as he is gives him, oddly, a fighting chance to
to disrupt Wimby yeah like it a little bit yeah we've seen Caruso I mean again Wimby scored 40 I'm not but we've seen Caruso guard Joker and give him a little again a little bit of trouble we see him guard Wimby and at least give him a little bit of trouble at times Caruso's a foot shorter than Chet Like, the fact that they don't feel comfortable putting Chet on Wimby.
Chet finished second in the league in MVP. I'm sorry, in defensive player of the year. Like, it's... So, Chet's going... There was a... Wild sent me a tweet that I want to credit the... Let me see if I can find it real quick. Um, this, first let me, this is from dom underscore 2k.
um who's i guess a you wow he's got a quarter of a million followers um so nba tv association guy youtuber so he's a big he's a big guy uh on nba twitter and twitch and all that i i don't say that dismissively at all i just didn't when i i didn't i wasn't familiar with him so my apologies i probably should have been um but he wrote
I understand Chet just want to hoop, but unfortunately, he's mentally going to have to participate in whatever this is Wimby got going on with him. That's correct. Like, it's the... It might be a one-sided beef, but Chet's got to get himself amped up for his own side of it. Um...
Dom went on to write, never going to match him as a player physically, but the energy can't constantly be like Wimby just openly being like, yeah, that's low, bro. Going to have to participate in the rest of this eventually. That's correct. That's a great take. And that is correct. That is absolutely correct. Like, I don't know what Chet needs to do. But he's got to find a way to...
To hate Wimby as much as Wimby hates him, even if he's like, I didn't do anything to make you hate me, bro.
It was looking good after he got the block. I mean, the block, if the game would have ended right after that, would have been awesome.
So that was the thing. And I tweeted it. I said that was the best moment of Chet's career, dot, dot, dot, maybe his life. Like, Chet getting that moment on Wimby in that time, and had they won... That would have been, who cares about the point totals or whatever. He came through when it was big. But aside from that, Chet was out of sorts. And I'm going to add something else here.
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Chapter 7: What were the pivotal moments that defined the Spurs vs. Thunder game?
Stephon Castle had the quietest 11 turnover game I've ever seen. Like, when I say quiet, I mean it was ā I was watching the whole game, obviously. And then I heard Tirico just say as an aside in one of the overtimes, that was Castle's 11th turnover.
It was like 11 turnovers. Yeah, and double OT. But, yeah, I don't feel like a lot of them did.
Still, 11 turnovers is crazy. Usually when a guy has eight turnovers, it's one of the focal points of the game. It's like, oh my God, that guy can't... It was.
Chapter 8: How does the discussion of media beefs reflect on player-commentator dynamics?
But it went hand in hand. Dylan Harper had seven steals. So I guess... But... So that's sidebar. It was just... When I say quietest, like... Somehow, Stephon Castle had 11 turnovers, and I didn't think he played bad. I've never seen that before in my life. Shea, on the other hand, had a 20-point double-double with 12 assists, and I thought it was really bad.
And yesterday on the TV show, when we found out Shea had won MVP, I gave my list... of the nine greatest guards in nba history in order and unlike when i did this a month ago i didn't forget steph curry existed um and so the list went now i'm doing off top my head if i don't count up to nine here i'm gonna be very upset the list went michael magic kobe steph
West, Isaiah, Oscar, Dwayne Wade, Shea. Shea at nine. With 10 being either Bob Cousy or Chris Paul, choose your flavor. And I said, if they win another title, if they win this title, He has to, at the very least, jump D. Wade.
And you can talk, if they win back-to-back titles, and he's Finals MVP again, and you want to say that the five greatest guards ever are Michael, Magic, Kobe, Steph, Shea, it's at least a legitimate argument that he jumps not only Wade, but Oscar, Isaiah, and Jerry West. It's a legit argument. If they win the title.
But I was not yet ready to put him ahead of Dwayne Wade, even though he has two league MVPs and Dwayne Wade has zero. Even though he has four seasons averaging 30 plus, I think Wade has one. Because the accolades are going to need to really outstrip the eye test.
in order for me to move him ahead when I do feel like he is an all-time great player who gets more of a production bump than any other all-time great player I can remember from his hijinks with the officials And once again last night, he wasn't quite getting those calls. He was guarded more honestly, if you will. And he just didn't have it. Now, he's a great player.
So some nights he won't get the calls. He'll get the exact same looks.
And just hold on real quick.
Just real quick. Some nights he won't get the calls. He'll get the same looks as last night. And he'll be 15 of 23. I am not saying that without the calls he's fraudulent or he's not great. But I do think historically to Monzae, He is more in line with Dwayne Wade, one of the 30 greatest players ever, than he is with Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant.
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