Anthropic's Model Suspension, Europe 2031, and G7 World Leaders Lunching with Frontier AI Lab & Tech CEOs: The Week in Tech & Trust with Yours Truly (EP 29)

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Why did the US Commerce Department force Anthropic’s Fable and Mythos models offline for non‑Americans?

Eva Simone Lihotzky 0:06
The most recent and let's call it one of the most powerful AI tools on the market right now was suspended by the US government a week ago. And a group of AI thought leaders pushed for what they call the Europe twenty thirty one agenda. And then there were also the leaders attending the G7 that had lunch with the CEOs and the high ranking executives of Frontier AI labs and the big tech company. And these were just some of the topics on the top of my mind this week, but I found them worthwhile to connect them with each other and to also dive into them a bit further. And with that, welcome to another episode of the In-Between Tech and Trust podcast. My name is Eva Lihotsky, and I've been working at the intersection of AI adoption and ethics because I aim to understand and operationalize their mutual interdependencies.
Eva Simone Lihotzky 0:56
And to derive a positive nature and narrative of what kind of future we can want and should be living in. And before we jump right into all of those topics that I just named in the introduction, there was one thing that I wanted to frame up front, and it's that these three topics might sound a bit like separate news items, but for me they weren't, and that's also why I wanted to share them with you. And so by the end of the This episode, I'd love for you to take away that the AI model suspension, the Europe 2031 scenario, and the G7 lunch, they all sit at the same thread or linchpin, so to say. And in the end it all comes down to trust and also how we trust into the technologies that we use. And with it, I want to start with the first topic to look to look into.
Eva Simone Lihotzky 1:46
Which is the suspension of Fable and um Fable and Mythos V have been released on the ninth of June, and within three days a US government export directive forced them to be back offline. So on the twelfth of June, the Commerce Department ordered Ontropic to suspend all access to Fable V and Mythos V by any foreign national, whether inside or outside. Outside the US, and that also means that they included foreign national entropic employees. And because selectively complying to what this was simply not practical to Entropic, and so they disabled both models for everyone, while the access to the other models, including Cloud Opus 4.8, wasn't affected overall. And what I found telling behind this directive was that it didn't come down to a narrow non universal jay break, but um reportedly
Eva Simone Lihotzky 2:43
To a technique that involved asking the model to read a specific piece of code. And it was also tied to fable safeguards in the cybersecurity space. And Entropic said that they only received a verbal notice and no written national security rationale, and that they also publicly called it a misunderstanding. And what I found interesting behind that was, reportedly and before the launch, the model went through like a thousands of hours of red teaming by the US government itself and by the UK AI National Security Institute or by third parties. So it has really been stress tested.

How does the Anthropic suspension expose the risk of AI access being a revocable permission?

Eva Simone Lihotzky 3:22
And up until mid-June, none of them had flagged this as a universal jailbreak. And to add to that, maybe you remember. That back in early spring, the Department of Defense had already labeled Entropic as a supply chain risk, which is like a designation that's usually being reserved for foreign adversaries. And there is like still litigation and conversations ongoing and it hasn't been revolved, but adding that to the suspension of the model is indeed quite, you know, telling. And you might also have read in the news that the company in Entropic has confidentially filed for an IPO at a reported valuation in the region of like, let's say, $965 billion. So being suspended at that point in time is like a
Eva Simone Lihotzky 4:11
linchpin moment for them as well. But I wanted to talk to you today, not specifically about the company's like aspects into that suspension, but I wanted to talk to you about from a European angle. Because right at this moment, it is a real life and real world instance from a frontier US model being made legally off limits for non-Americans, which is like

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