Two Fears Behind Every AI Transformation - Dr. Charlotte Blum (EP 31)
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What is the core problem with trusting AI too much or not at all?
I'm not gonna work with that. If that's gonna take over my job, why would I want that?
Why is AI considered a human‑identity shift rather than just a technology change?
So if we don't work with the fear that people have, if we don't manage to actually show them a future that they wanna work towards, why would they adapt? There's no reason.
AI transformations come with a lot of fears and it also comes with a lot of change. And change always requires communication and clarity of where that change transforms organizations, jobs, and also futures into. And with that, welcome to another episode of the In Between Tech and Trust Podcast.
What skill does the speaker say capitalism doesn’t want you to develop?
I'm Eva Lehotsky and this week I'm joined by Dr. Charlotte Bloom and Charlotte is Director Change and Organizational Design at the Edding Group. And together we dive deep into the intersection of AI transformation, what the human side of transforming in an AI era actually means, and why the emotional side is so important to address and also to enable going forward. Charlotte, welcome to the In Between Tech and Trust Podcast. Happy to be here.
Why are leaders given a role they were never trained for during AI transformations?
And as with every guest, I do want to start with you about the intersection of technology and trust. When you think about those two words, what is the first thing that comes to your mind?
It's a tough one to answer, I have to say, and I feel like actually that balance or imbalance between tech and trust is one challenge that we have in our time right now, right? We also see that people either trust too much and they rely completely, or we don't trust at all, then we don't use the technology, we stay away from it. But can you afford that in our time? So I feel like we haven't figured it out. The interface is still to be filled and we definitely we need a differentiated approach that has constant tax and balance. And I don't think it's going to be one solution. I think it's going to be a fluid system around
Around that. And I guess the fluidity of the systems was also why I really want to talk to you, because you also work in between organizational psychology, in between the change, like transformation, and also the way of how enabling people really enables also the technology within organization itself. And there is one thesis that you stated when we were talking, and that was you believe that AI is less about a technology shift and it's more about the human one in itself. And can you iterate a bit about why this is and why you also are a firm believer of like those differentiation and nuances that we need to look into?
I mean, there are also like different parts of every organization, so I don't wanna generalize completely, but I do think that AI will change completely what the world needs from us as humans. So are we going to be remembered because we're really good at math? Are we going to be remembered because we're the most logical, the most analytical? I don't think so.
How does the trust equation break down when applied to AI?
So but these are the things that we got credit for, that we were seen for is what counted in developing organizations also, right? With AI taking over all of that. And I'm pretty sure it will at one point. Again, needing checks and balances for sure, but that's the part that I AI is great at. And then we're coming to the important part. Then we're coming to the questions, who are we? How do we relate? How do we interact?
What are the three critical things an organization must get right for AI success?
Who are we as people and who are we with each other? And that's a complete transformation, right? So who are we valuing and what for? Is something that we will answer differently in I think very few years.
And when you translate that now into the business kind of environment. And you also sitting right at the intersection of like those emotional kind of capabilities that we as humans bring. But that business in itself sometimes even doesn't measure, right? So there are no performance KPIs for how emotional am I as a human in an organization or a collaborator in like a team. What is like the most common challenge that organizations currently face? When you're not going to be able to do They try to balance the introduction of AI or technology overall. but also when we as humans are within them and need to adapt to the changes that that occurs to us.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the core problem with trusting AI too much or not at all?
0:07–0:10
2
Why is AI considered a human‑identity shift rather than just a technology change?
0:10–0:43
3
What skill does the speaker say capitalism doesn’t want you to develop?
0:43–1:16
4
Why are leaders given a role they were never trained for during AI transformations?
1:16–3:15
5
How does the trust equation break down when applied to AI?
3:15–3:43
6
What are the three critical things an organization must get right for AI success?
3:43–31:29
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