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The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 899 | "Gossip & Parlaying"

31 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.

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Enjoy the show. Yo, turn this thing on, mic check, one, two, one, two. Five degrees out here, Mark don't have a coat on. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Welcome, welcome, welcome. So happy y'all could be here, man. Blessed, blessed and highly favored. Salute to that, to that man up top. And Corey, I still pray for him. All the atheists out there. I still pray for the atheists.

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I don't give a fuck what they believe. Yo, you ain't wearing a coat, Mark. Nah, I ain't need one. My girl Mona here on time, stop playing with us. Yo, when we get here on time together, oh my God. Mark, get a coat, man.

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62.356 - 81.07 Zaire Franklin

I was going to wear one out the door today, and I said, for what? It was three or four degrees when I got up. That's a good reason. Yeah, but I jumped right in the car and I ain't come straight here. The most time I spend outside is taking them damn pictures with y'all. That's a good time for a coat. Or, just hear me out. We could not take the pictures outside.

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Nah, we gotta take the pictures outside. I was so curious of why we have to take the pictures outside. Like, I just didn't, you know.

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Thank you, Mona.

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Versus where?

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Where it's not three degrees.

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Versus taking them where?

Chapter 2: How does the conversation shift to the topic of J. Cole's freestyle?

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They don't have views in Philadelphia. That's why they're aligned in this.

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120.74 - 121.201 Mark Lamont Hill

What y'all got?

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Ben Franklin? And they got whatever steps Rocky was running down. The steps. The steps. Beautiful. Yeah, they got the steps Rocky trained on. Oh, my God.

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And Bill Cosby.

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Then the rest of the country took the Meek intro from y'all.

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Y'all lost that.

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That's your attraction to steps? Yeah. You should have seen the steps during the snow. Wild, beautiful steps. Why else would you go to Philly unless it's something down there you played in real quick? And they lost the steps. And even in that, when you meet the bad Philly joints, you come up top. Just come up top. Hop on that 95. But you heard bad Philly joints. Exactly. Oh, Philly got them.

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No, no, no.

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Bad Philly joints up there. We got you, but... There's bad Philly joints out there now. And some of the audience said they'll beat it down. Don't play. Don't play with Big Demona. Please. People been asking me if you single. I just ignore them. I go Big Brother mode, just ignore them. My nigga. You already know. That Big Brother mode. I can't believe that's still out. Yeah.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of J. Cole's lyrics on the hip-hop industry?

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The ones we fucking?

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193.03 - 194.953 Zaire Franklin

but it wouldn't be trying to fuck.

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Yeah. And I legit think that's like so scummy. Niggas did that? Yes. That's my sis.

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Don't start your shit today. I was shocked too, bitch. Do not start your shit today.

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No, I believe him because I was shocked too, bitch. I didn't know people do brother and sister be sneaky fucking. I did not know that.

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No, no, no. Sometimes it means I have no chance of fucking this girl, so I'm going to call her sis. It's a friend zone. Oh, yeah, I do that all the time.

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But that's not what you were saying. Oh, I do that all the time. You were saying the niggas was using the big bro as the means to pop. Niggas be trying to big bro their way into some pussy. I never heard that. It be she not interested, and I don't got no shot. Well, it's because you're blessed with beautiful eyes, nigga. Mute up while we talk about some real shit. You know this.

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I don't know why you be playing. I'm dead ass. You don't know the nigga that's like, yo, he trying to get at it. She ain't with it. So I'm going to take it. I'm not going to take on like my little sis. And then I'm trying to be close. Yo, that's crazy. He doesn't get it because he's not a scumbag. That's crazy. All right. Well, in our next part, we'll explain everything, Nish.

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But yeah, I can't believe that that's still a thing. I can't believe that she never heard of it. Yeah, I bro a nigga quick. You bro a nigga, put him right over there. And if that nigga still want to beat, he going to take the bro position and then one day he'll get out of that spot.

Chapter 4: What are the latest updates on J. Cole and the Banks vs. Fabolous debate?

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He catch a little pass and can break that shit. Rasheed Shaheed for more than 23 receiving yards. And Andy Borregales for more than seven kicking points. There you go. Don't forget to download the app right this second and use promo code J-B-P and get $50 instantly on all lineups, only on PrizePix, where it's good to be right.

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All right, coming off all that great and fun J. Cole shit, Banks vs. Fab has been a topic recently because Uncle Murder and Tony Yeo went on The Breakfast Club where they were asked that question. And it looked like they had a nice 4v1 going against Tony Yeo in favor of Fab, but Yeo is so charismatic. and just loud and boisterous.

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While he was arguing for Banks, all I heard was his voice over the OG on the mixtapes. Like, he could make anything sound like war is coming to you. Facts. Facts. He was just having like a barbershop debate and it sounded like... Oh, my God. He's the perfect potter. Like, even just him describing his meals, you'd just be so intrigued. I'm over there eating elk. I'm over there eating elk.

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You niggas eating French toast. I'm eating elk. Yeah, whatever he's talking about. Yeah, I just hear his voice over all that. But I thought MV would rap a little more. That's my man, and this is Desert Storm podcast at this point in time. I thought Envy would rep a little more for Fab. He let Tony Ayo do a lot of talking up there. He let Tony Ayo say a lot. I'll ask the distinguished panel here.

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Who is better, Fab or Banks? I don't expect us to spend a lot of time on this.

Chapter 5: What are the key points about the upcoming fight between Shakur Stevenson and Teofimo Lopez?

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I do like that with this and with the common Jadakiss one, it feels like when people throw these names together, they're people that I feel like aren't further than five spots apart from each other anyway. That's what makes it fun. So when you ask that, you're saying like overall or like mixtape, fab, and bass?

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Overall.

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On the all-time great list, who's higher? That's really tricky.

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4249.266 - 4250.768 Mark Lamont Hill

I would say fab. It's fab for me.

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I would say fab. It got to be fab. I'm rolling with Banks, man. Banks hard, but he's not over fab.

4255.595 - 4259.5 Mark Lamont Hill

I think Banks got better albums. I'm using the same metric that I use with the Common Kiss to beat.

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It's fab for me. And I know Banks. Remember what happened last time I picked somebody over him. What's your favorite Banks album? Hunger for War. Hunger for War. I knew he was going to say that. Hunger for War is better than Ghetto Fabulous? For me. Yes. For me too. I got to pull up the track list. I got to pull up the track list. Yeah, I think. I think y'all might be off.

4284.815 - 4286.076 Mark Lamont Hill

Like all them soul tapes.

Chapter 6: What health issues did Ray J discuss and how does it impact his life?

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I can't put Banks over Fab after all them soul tapes.

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4288.78 - 4292.665 Mark Lamont Hill

I think, again, Fab, it's similar to the Jadica. I think Fab has better bangers.

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Yeah. It's very similar. Hunger for more.

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Ain't no click. Playboy. Warrior. On fire. I get high. I'm so fly. Work magic. If you so gangster. Warrior part two. Karma. When the Chips are Till the End, Die One Day, Southside Story. And I'm just going to read Ghetto Fabulous because that don't sound like it's better than Ghetto Fabulous to me. Click and Spark, Youngin. Hold on. No, no. Don't take the thunder from me now.

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Don't take the thunder from me. And I feel like Banks got the better voice. Click and Spark, Keepin' It Gangsta, Youngin, Get Right. Ride for this. One day. Trade it all. Right now, later on. Take you home. Get smart. Can't deny it. Ma be easy. We don't give a... I'm with Ice.

4341.729 - 4342.752 Mark Lamont Hill

Yeah, Hunger for More.

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I'm not mad at anybody that says Hunger for More. Hunger for More, too, is great, too. I'm not mad. All right, so you give the better album to Banks. Yeah, but Fab's got better features and singles and bangers. I'm going with Fab as much as I don't.

4356.618 - 4360.444 Zaire Franklin

It's hard. I don't think it's the wrong answer, but I'm going with Fab by a hair.

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Even though I agree with you on the albums, and that usually is my thing, but Fab just makes me. I have Fab by a hair, too. I have Fab by a Mike Shorey feature. I have Fab by a Little Moe studio stop by.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of Ray J's health discussion?

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We're not doing that. Hey, you're looking good, nigga. All right, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. What was we saying now? We was just wrapping up. This is too serious of a matter for me to not believe him and say that. It's too much on the line and at stake. I would pray that As much of a jokester and troll troll as Ray J is that it wouldn't be with this and like that.

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I believe words can speak truth to power like there's power in them. Like you can will some shit to existence. And assuming that all of this is true, I would like Ray J to have a.

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more faith in his higher power right like the doctor is one thing but the doctor is not god that's a fact i know way too many people a lot of people that have damn we got so much drama that have been in this situation before i've seen many outlived the doctor's projection of their life my grandfather being one of those people when they told him he had a year he had four or five more than they he went back and said oh no he's good now he had another

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seven, eight years after they gave him a year. I know some other people where they was only supposed to live for a year.

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Chapter 8: How does the conversation shift to Don Lemon's situation?

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They on year three. And I've seen it go the other way where the projection is spot on dead right. Normally you're going before the doctor even said that. So your will to live is important in those moments. It is. Yeah.

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i mean that's the whole thing i think yeah your will to live is really really really important so ray j i love you uh i hope that this is untrue in the event that it is uh you know i just love you and appreciate you and all that you've done for us so shout out to ray j um let's see let's see so we're done with steph curry we're done with ray j we did the grammy weekend um

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Nah, I won't go there just yet. I do have a question for y'all. I don't want to talk about Nicki Minaj. Thank you. Word. I'm not. We're done. Okay. However, if you had a Trump Amex, where the fuck would you be pulling it out at? Like if I had that shit, I would be scared to death to pull that motherfucker out with Trump face on some shit.

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7872.548 - 7873.59 Mark Lamont Hill

Is it real, y'all?

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Nah, you could get over a lot of places in that genre. That'll get you. There's no way as a black man. Oh, as a black man, that's a different situation. I'm not talking about where it's cool. I'm just talking about where I would feel. Cool. That's because you're in the line with a lot of the shit. It's the motherfuckers that agree with some of that shit or a lot of that shit.

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They'll be proud as hell to pull that Trump card out. Yo, if we just putting faces on Amex cars, then I got a list of people I want on mine. Starting with me. What is somebody going to do with the Joe Amex? No, I'm just talking about me. You want your own on it. Yeah, I want my own shit. Let's bring back that level of vanity. Listen, I'm with you.

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If you're able to put your own face, yeah, absolutely. Why I can't get one with my girl? That's what really face need to be on it. That's who's spending everything. Anyway, all right. You guys, anything, anything?

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All right.

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That's the end of that topic. You took it there. I'm looking at the tree. Done? All right, fine.

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