#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
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The Joe Rogan Experience. Showing by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Good to see you again, my friend. Hey, it's always great to be here. It's been a while.
Four years, January 8th, no, January 15th. Was it really?
Yeah, that long ago. Four years, geez. Yeah, it's been four years. But last time you were here, right? Correct.
I think the last two was here.
So that was like right after a couple months after I moved here. Yeah, so almost exactly four years.
Crazy. Well, waiting was great. Waiting? Waiting. I mean the time, four years waiting to have another chat with you because so much has gone on since last we met.
Well, tell me. What's going on?
Where do you want to start? A? Z? Anywhere. Anywhere. Let's see. You know, the family's expanding, which is great. All three daughters have been married and each has a grandchild. which is making me feel old. So I've ramped up, stepped up my hormonal treatment to keep me on edge because I want to be around a lot longer to take care of these kids or to be with the kids. They're just 16 months, but they're still fantastic. Unbelievable. I love it. That's great. Absolutely love it. But in the world that I work in, in the medical arena, it's been expanding rapidly. The new administration has a part to play in it, which is great. But even before that, the number of results that we're having, the outcome from TBI, PTSD, and what have you, has been accelerating because of some of our testing that we do as well as our treatment. that we've initiated that's changed since four years ago, since last time. What have you added in the last four years? Well, we've added a lot more nutraceuticals, natural products into our regimen.
I spent 16 years looking at the science behind things that can get into the brain and alter the inflammation that occurs in the brain. The whole premise of everything that I've been doing for the last 30 years has been based upon inflammation in the brain. And the inflammation is what stops all the chemistry and why we develop anger and problems. I don't know if you saw the article, which is called Influence of Media on the Mental Health of America, which used to be called the Trump Derangement Syndrome. But I got so much backlash from having that title. People wouldn't read it because of the title. And it talks about how constant stress from the media is. echo chambers, social media, reading all this bullshit, causes cortisol to go up.
No doubt. And it shuts down a chemical that protects your brain called fractalkin, and then it starts dumping all this inflammation and causes loss of serotonin, so you become more depressed. It causes loss of melatonin, so you can't sleep. generates another group of chemicals that induce depression.
Yeah, it essentially generates this response in your body that prepares itself for a fight that never takes place. Correct. And then you're always thinking you're about to get into some sort of a physical altercation with an armed enemy coming over the top of the hill.
Yeah, vigilant states, just like our Army goes through, constant stress.
Exactly. And the thing, the Army and a lot of these people that you've worked with is from IEDs and from blowing through doors and stuff like that, they get damage to their pituitary gland. You know, we've talked about it many, many times on the podcast.
But I think one of the misperceptions is, as you said, and I apologize for that, is that we think it's all due to pituitary gland, but it isn't. And the work that we've been doing, it shows that when you have inflammation in the brain, regardless of how it's developed, whether or not it's IED or slip and fall or as we've talked in the past, even wave runners, ski-dos or skiing or water skiing, snow skiing or going to the range, the .50 caliber gunners. What happens is it creates this inflammation that shuts off the ability of the brain to regulate the pituitary gland. So you can do all the MRIs as they do at the VA, and they see a normal pituitary gland and says, oh, pituitary is normal. You've got PTSD. But there's no radiological or neuroradiological procedure that will allow you to look at inflammation in the brain.
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