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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2365 - Rep. Anna Paulina Luna

13 Aug 2025

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Anna Paulina Luna serves as U.S. representative for Florida's 13th congressional district. She is the author of two books: "Marrying the Beret: The Untold Stories of US Special Operations," and "Bringing them Home: The Untold Cost of Putting Missions First." https://luna.house.gov 50% off your first box at https://www.thefarmersdog.com/rogan! This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://BetterHelp.com/JRE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0.031 - 15.39 Joe Rogan

So what did you think about the whole UFO thing before you got in the office?

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15.539 - 37.007 Rep. Anna Paulina Luna

So I actually had – when I was stationed at Portland Air National Guard, my job there was an airfield manager. So I would interface and work a lot with the F-15 pilots at the unit. And so there had been an airspace incursion that had taken place when I was – still at the time at the Guard. And I remember kind of talking to some of the pilots about it, and I was like, what was that?

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37.027 - 58.702 Rep. Anna Paulina Luna

And they're like, eh, we can't really talk about it. No one really wanted to address it. And so from what I'd gathered, that had been likely a UAP. And so that kind of was my perspective. Granted, I also grew up in the generation of the X-Files and, you know, I don't know if you remember 94 Independence Day. So like, For me specifically, I didn't look at it with like a crazy lens and perspective.

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58.722 - 62.711 Rep. Anna Paulina Luna

I'm like, you know, you never know if we're the only ones out there essentially.

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63.051 - 69.185 Joe Rogan

But why did you assume that if it's a top secret incursion that he couldn't talk about that it wasn't just a military craft from another country?

69.305 - 70.909 Rep. Anna Paulina Luna

Because of the way that he was discussing it.

70.889 - 72.153 Joe Rogan

How did he, what did he say?

72.173 - 93.603 Rep. Anna Paulina Luna

So he had been, he didn't want to, from what I gather, get taken off flight status. And he's like, I really can't discuss it. We couldn't really like identify it essentially. And it had outperformed them. And so that was my first from a military perspective kind of experience with someone who basically, you know, there's a stigma within the flight community.

94.384 - 103.097 Rep. Anna Paulina Luna

Do you want to lose your security clearance? What you know, is there this level of crazy that people kind of brand that will stick with you and kind of ruin your career?

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