JRE MMA Show #160 with Francis Ngannou
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The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. All right, we're up. What's up, man? Good to see you. You have had a lot of experiences since the last time I saw you.
Yeah.
A lot of things happened.
That's why I always about writing my book and chapter keep adding up, adding up, adding up. And yes, every time you feel like you're just maybe in the beginning or in the middle.
Yeah, I don't think so. You're definitely only in the middle.
Yeah, in the middle.
Somewhere. I mean, it's not the beginning, but it's a lot of experiences. So tell me about leading up to the Tyson Fury fight.
Oh, the Tyson Fury fight, that was great. You know, I was just there living a dream, you know, get this big moment, get that fight that I've been waiting for four years.
The fight that everybody said you were never going to get.
Yes.
Which is crazy. Like, thank God for the Saudis because they are making things happen, which is really incredible.
Incredible.
Incredible.
And it's not like, who is this, who is that? It's like, okay, we want it to happen, then make it happen.
Yeah, because everybody wanted to see it happen, but it was one of those things where everybody dismissed it. Everybody said, that's not going to happen. Tyson Fury's the heavyweight champion. Why would he fight a guy who doesn't have any professional boxing matches? That's crazy. That's not going to happen. And it happened. And then everybody said, you didn't stand a chance. And then when you knocked him down in the second round, everybody was like, holy shit. And when you were dancing over him when he went down. Yeah.
But, you know, I think a lot of people do mistake something, you know. And I always tell people, like, not because you're a fighter that you walk in the ball and there's this guy coming to you, maybe this fat guy coming to you, and then you stand there and because you're a fighter, don't think like he's a threat. Everybody could be a threat. You better step, take two steps back and then, like, see your distance and get ready to defend yourself. You know, if everybody hits you, anybody hits you, you're going to get hurt. Right. True. So, yes, I might not have been doing boxing. I'm not a boxer, but still, I'm a fighter. And even if I wasn't a fighter, you know, I can hurt and I can harm somebody. You're a big motherfucker.
I'm a big guy.
So I was watching it and people was like, no, he stand no chance. He has zero chance. I'm like, there is not a fight on earth that zero chance. That element of zero chance doesn't exist. I mean, if you look at it, I'm a man guy and then two men together, someone might have more techniques, might know the sport. But even if I never been in the gym, you still better watch out. I still have a chance. Maybe not as much, maybe not equal chance, but I still do have a chance.
But you can't dismiss someone like you and drop your guard and think that you don't have any chance.
You shouldn't dismiss anybody. We used to be in the... I have seen fight that people show up and then they pretend like, oh, they're going to fight. They have stone in their hand. And if you dismiss them because you think like, oh, he's a small guy, he hits you with the stone in his hand. Right, right, right, right. Well, by the time you find out that he has stone in the hand, you are in the ground.
Right, exactly. But it was very clear to me that you had some interesting strategies when you went into that fight. First of all, you were fighting a lot of it in southpaw. Why did you decide to do that? Was that something that you guys had devised before the fight? You thought it would be an interesting strategy? Or is that just like the way you like to box?
I like to box like that, but I also thought he was a strategy. That he would be a good strategy as well. Because, like, basically on the Tyson Fury fight, I think the South Pole was a big component in that fight. Because every time that I realized that every time that I switched to South Pole, he was thinking. But when I switched back to orthodox, he was pressing.
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