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The Jordan Harbinger Show

1101: Church, Steeple, and the Trafficked People | Feedback Friday

10 Jan 2025

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What is the story behind the church's new owner?

1007.47 - 1026.814 Jordan Harbinger

Yeah, maximum impact is not a proper noun, bro. Why are you capitalizing? This is not high German. You didn't trademark that. Anyway, I'm sorry that you're living next to this guy's new stand-up comedy theater slash brothel or whatever. And that he's causing so many waves in your town. You got to give him some credit for combining those two genres of business. Like, oh man, it's Tuesday.

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1026.874 - 1030.499 Jordan Harbinger

Not a lot of customers for the brothel. That's fine. We have open mic night.

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1030.859 - 1032.461 Gabriel Mizrahi

We have a killer lineup at the Chuckle Pit.

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1035.405 - 1056.167 Jordan Harbinger

He definitely seems a little sus. He's clearly into some unsavory business practices, and I get why you're concerned. At the same time, as you pointed out, you do not have hard evidence that he's engaged in criminal activity. A lot of this is based on rumor or assumptions, which is a massive obstacle to proving anything. And it also it might be somewhat unfair to hold against him.

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1056.747 - 1069.991 Gabriel Mizrahi

Yeah, I hear that. But at the same time, when you hear multiple rumors from multiple sources that all arrive at the same conclusion, it's like... It does carry some weight, especially in a small town where word gets around pretty easily, but that doesn't make it true.

1070.111 - 1087.759 Jordan Harbinger

And again, his website's not doing him any favors. He's pretty out there with the whole, like, hey, I pose with beautiful young women at networking events. That's his brand, and he's leaning into it. So I get why you're concerned. And all signs point to something shady going on here, but shady and unsavory are just... They are meaningfully different from criminal.

1088.019 - 1109.115 Jordan Harbinger

And even criminal is different from provable, prosecutable. We wanted to talk to an actual expert here. Again, I'm not your lawyer, according to this mug. So we reached out to defense attorney and friend of the show, Corbin Payne. And the first thing Corbin said was that human trafficking has a notoriously wide and ambiguous definition. This is probably by design.

1109.536 - 1124.15 Jordan Harbinger

It's hard to tell from your letter of what Bob is doing is truly human trafficking. Also, like you said, you don't have a ton of hard evidence, just a mix of rumors and observations, which, again, it's not irrelevant, but it's not like slam dunk proof that Bob is working with shipping containers full of people, so to speak.

1124.73 - 1139.219 Jordan Harbinger

But Corbin did say that the construction industry and contractors in general, they can just be a bit scummy about how they treat people. Look, I know there's tons of contractors listening that are like, hey, hey, hey, we don't mean you. We mean the other people that you know that you don't work with because they're scummy.

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