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The Jordan Harbinger Show

1142: Cannabis Redux | Skeptical Sunday

20 Apr 2025

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Chapter 1: Who are the hosts and what is Skeptical Sunday about?

3.956 - 20.339 Jordan Harbinger

Welcome to Skeptical Sunday. I'm your host, Jordan Harbinger. Today I'm here with Skeptical Sunday co-host, comedian Michael Rogelio. On the Jordan Harbinger Show, we decode the stories, secrets, and skills of the world's most fascinating people and turn their wisdom into practical advice that you can use to impact your own life. and those around you.

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20.46 - 35.945 Jordan Harbinger

And our mission is to help you become a better informed, more critical thinker, especially here on Skeptical Sunday. During the week, we have long form conversations with a variety of amazing folks from spies to CEOs, athletes, authors, thinkers, and performers. On Sundays, though, today, whichever day you're listening, it's Skeptical Sunday.

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36.285 - 52.45 Jordan Harbinger

This is where a rotating guest co-host and I break down a topic you may have never thought about and debunk common misconceptions about that topic. Such as acupuncture, astrology, recycling, toothpaste, crystal healing, diet pills, energy drinks, weddings, the death industry, and more.

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52.59 - 66.974 Jordan Harbinger

And if you're new to the show or you want to tell your friends about the show, we've got some starter packs, which are collections of our favorite episodes on persuasion, negotiation, psychology, disinformation, cyber warfare, crime, and cults, and more. That'll help new listeners get a taste of everything we do here on the show.

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67.274 - 82.637 Jordan Harbinger

Just visit jordanharbinger.com slash start or search for us in your Spotify app to get started. Now, you're probably going, cannabis. I swear I saw this in the feed earlier. This is our second attempt. We were still finding our feet with Skeptical Sunday. That was when we did round one of cannabis.

82.897 - 100.682 Jordan Harbinger

At the time, we'd only done a handful of these things, and I wanted to redo this one since it was downloaded so many times. I got a lot of feedback about it, positive, negative. Great episode, too corny, all this stuff. We got put on blast from listener emails, and that's how we learn and get better. So round two is... With cannabis, here we go.

101.042 - 116.23 Jordan Harbinger

Growing up in the 80s and 90s, I was told that cannabis was the devil's weed. One should avoid it at all costs. Kids were dared to just say no. We were scared with over-the-top ads. Today, some say cannabis is a cure-all from everything from anxiety to chronic pain. So what is the truth?

116.73 - 133.588 Jordan Harbinger

Are the alarmists right in their belief that cannabis is the downfall of humanity or are the herbalists of today onto something when they push the medical flower? Comedian Michael Regilio is here to give us the straight dope on weed and let us know if it's a medical miracle or the hype is just smoke and mirrors.

134.5 - 134.74 Michael Regilio

Yes.

Chapter 2: What are the historical uses and cultural significance of cannabis?

454.788 - 471.062 Michael Regilio

No, exactly. Interestingly enough, the Chinese made cannabis into a kind of wine. It's versatile. During the Middle Ages, Muslims in the Middle East used cannabis, which is very interesting because the Koran strictly prohibited alcohol, but there was no mention of cannabis. So is it true?

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471.122 - 483.813 Jordan Harbinger

Is it OK for Muslims to smoke pot or is it OK? Drugs are haram and alcohol is kind of the only thing we have around. So we're going to name that one. But I'm curious if it's OK or not. I've never heard that before.

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484.232 - 499.498 Michael Regilio

Yeah, me neither. And I did some research, but let's just be clear. In the olden days, we're referring to it was actually hashish that they were smoking, which is basically a potent extract of cannabis. The first known mention of hash is in a pamphlet published in Cairo in 1123, accusing

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501.599 - 523.958 Michael Regilio

nazari muslims of being hashish eaters so does that work you can eat it all right i don't know maybe but it maybe just was an ancient insult being like your mother eats hashish i'm not sure i see either way hash was big business with morocco and afghanistan being the biggest exporters of this potent concoction but as far as the modern muslims go it's still debated

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524.318 - 539.705 Michael Regilio

Most people agree that using cannabis for recreation goes against Islamic law, but using it for medicinal reasons is a different matter. In 2014, the Grand Ayatollah Saeed Mohammed Saadeq Haissani Rouhani of Iran... Close.

540.065 - 544.166 Jordan Harbinger

I'm pretty sure it's Sayyad Mohammed Saadeq Hosseini Rouhani.

544.427 - 558.536 Michael Regilio

Really close. He issued a fatwa or a legal religious ruling in it. He stated spiritual plant medicines and psychedelics are halal for Shia Muslims with supervision.

558.756 - 575.868 Jordan Harbinger

So for people who don't know what halal is, it's basically Muslim kosher. And for people who don't know what kosher is, it just basically means the religious law says it's OK to eat or consume or use. So with supervisions, basically an imam has to watch you tripping. It's interesting that it's psychedelics, too. I wouldn't expect that.

576.588 - 592.505 Michael Regilio

Look, if you're going to trip, I guess you got to do it with your mom. Both the French and the British, by the way, had their colonists growing cannabis in the New World. So our country was founded in some parts on weed. Yeah. And other parts on slavery and misogyny.

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