Caitlin Green: Tox Mom Group Breakup - January 8, 2026
episodePreviously titled “Caitlin Green: Tox Mom Group Breakup - January 7, 2026” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 5, 2026
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Smart, sharp, and slightly unhinged. Late night's fresh perspective. The Last Show with David Cooper. There is an actress causing a stir in Hollywood for writing out, speaking out against her toxic mom group. Imagine saying to your mom group chat, y'all are too toxic for me. I'm leaving. Well, why did it happen? That is what we're going to discuss with Caitlin Green, a media personality. She co-hosts the Jan Arden podcast, and she is a delight. Caitlin, welcome to the show. And yes, I'm talking about you.
Not Ashley Tisdale.
What prompted Ashley Tisdale to speak out against her mom group?
And I'm glad that we figured out how to pronounce her last name because this person to me hasn't been famous for such a long time that when I've been talking about her, I've been saying Tisdale because I really feel like my brain has just said, nah, this isn't a real celebrity. So good for her for writing this essay in the cut that now has her back in the headlines because everyone's talking about her.
Did she leave Hollywood to be a mom? And if you're not sure the answer to that question, it's okay. But yeah, I don't think she's been in a movie for three or four years now.
No, she hasn't. She was on High School Musical. That's probably like her biggest claim to fame and then was sort of professionally online, very photographed in L.A. and found herself in a kind of famous and famous adjacent group of moms in Hollywood that included Hilary Duff, Mandy Moore and singer Meghan Trainor, amongst a bunch of other people who are like stylists and fashion designers. And that's the group that she's been calling toxic.
Speaking of mom support groups at the risk of derailing, there's a reality show called The Secret Wives of Mormon Lives or Lives of Secret Mormons or whatever. It's about a mom group who I think what really unites them is dancing videos on TikTok. It's not exactly clear, but they're all like sleeping with each other, cheating on each other.
How did Ashley Tisdale's departure from the mom group unfold?
under the guise of a highly religious framework. But it really is like a mom support group. And I wasn't really aware of these structures. I guess I shouldn't be surprised until I saw the show. I don't have kids. Side note. I know you have one. Is this a common thing for moms to get together, whether it's a group chat, a Facebook group, a loosely knit community of creators to have these closely knit mom groups?
Yeah. So it's so funny to hear you refer to the secret lives of Mormon wise in this like distant way. I'm obsessed with that show. And so what they call themselves is mom talk. And yes, you're right. The biggest thing that bonds them was making dancing videos together. And they really took off during lockdown periods for a lot of people when everyone was glued to their phones. And they say it's a support group. I really think it's a group of people who want to be main characters. Yeah. And that's really what they have in common.
And that's- That's why they fight so much. It's like, you're not the main character. I'm the main character. That is the subtext of every fight on the show.
Precisely. And so they all have main character energy. They all fight with each other for top girl status in the group. And it is compelling in a high school-ish way to watch. I have consumed anything to do with them. Some of them you like more than others. Some of them you root for more than others. One season they're the villain, the next they're the hero, and so it goes. So yeah, the mom group thing is real, I'm told. There are mom groups out there on Facebook. They will usually be sort of like designated by neighborhood. There's one in my neighborhood. I know lots of people who are a part of it. They have text chats. And like what they really have in common is you're off work for a year at the same time.
You want to get together with someone in a park and sit with your babies and not have a nervous breakdown alone at home. So I think that that's sort of like where it begins for a lot of regular people. And then for like celebrities, they want to kind of like post about the fact that they're hanging out and that their mom's hanging out together.
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Chapters
5 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:02–0:37
2
What prompted Ashley Tisdale to speak out against her mom group?
0:37–1:49
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How did Ashley Tisdale's departure from the mom group unfold?
1:49–4:49
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What are the dynamics of celebrity mom groups?
4:49–6:41
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Why do moms form support groups and what do they seek?
6:41–9:46
Speakers
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