FULL EPISODE: Risk Your Life For Fish - March 24, 2026

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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Unfiltered discussions, unexpected guests, no topic is off-limits, from sex and relationships to the human condition, personal anxieties, and so much more.

What strange conspiracies surround the sinking of the Titanic?

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David Cooper 0:24
Hi and welcome to the beginning of the last show, not the ending of the first show, if you know what I mean. I have no idea what I mean. You'll learn a lot of things on tonight's program. Here are some of them. In the Arctic, dinner can mean danger. So why would a seal swim into a polar bear's territory just to find a more interesting seafood menu? Halfway through the hour, we'll explore the strange economics of risk, fear, and fish. Also, seals are pretty cute. Then after that, a surprising question about justice. What if the words used in courtrooms push jurors towards guilty verdicts, not the facts of the case. Towards the end of the hour, there's some research on legal jargon, confusion, and how the language used by lawyers might change the outcome of a trial.
David Cooper 1:15
Is justice truly blind or is it just complicated words that can affect the justice and making it not blind? Okay, I could have been more clear about that. Anyway, those are some of the topics we'll hit on the night show. There will be more. You will learn more. But for now, let's go to the deep ocean and dive right in.

How do Arctic seals risk their lives for food?

David Cooper 1:34
That'll all make sense in a second.
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David Cooper 1:46
I'm flying, Jack. Did the Titanic sink? Was it an inside job? There are some wild, wacky, and out there conspiracies about the boat, the ship, the steamship, whatever it's called. And in these strange and uncertain times, what better to discuss than Titanic conspiracies? And who better to discuss it with than Nathan Radke, a professor of conspiracy studies at Humber Polytechnic.

What impact does legal jargon have on jury verdicts?

David Cooper 2:10
Check out his podcast, The Uncover Up Conspiracy Cast. Nathan, welcome to the show. Ahoy. Did you watch the Titanic movie in, was it late 90s, early 2000s?
Nathan Radke 2:21
I didn't watch it until much, much later. So I missed out on sort of that big pop culture moment, but I have seen it.
David Cooper 2:27
Okay. And you have painted somebody like one of your, nevermind. How wild do these conspiracy theories get?

How do dolls enhance children's social understanding compared to tablets?

David Cooper 2:34
Do people think the Titanic is at a bar with Jerry Garcia, Tupac Shakur and Elvis? Like how wild are some of these? Do they think the Titanic is still out there in the ocean?
Nathan Radke 2:44
Yeah. Well, the one that I hear most often from people, and the one that probably sounds the most ridiculous at first, is the idea that the Titanic, despite what we saw in the film, didn't sink. That film was in a documentary? I mean, it was close enough. But this idea originates with a British author named Robin Gardner, who wasn't claiming that there was no shipwreck at all that night, but that the ship that sank wasn't the Titanic and that it didn't hit an iceberg. So instead, and this has got a lot of moving parts in it, the ship that sank was secretly the Titanic's sister ship, the Olympic.
David Cooper 3:17
Okay, but didn't the Olympic sail after the Titanic sank and didn't people go on it and buy tickets and didn't it have like a full ship life or whatever?

What differences exist in how boys and girls respond to gender conformity pressures?

Nathan Radke 3:25
Yes, but that ship was actually the Titanic. Okay, but if it sank- Let me walk you through it.
David Cooper 3:33
Oh boy, okay.
Nathan Radke 3:33
Okay, so the Olympic was built first, launched a couple years before the Titanic. But then in 1911, there was an accident in which the Olympic and a British Navy cruiser collided, causing a lot of damage to the Olympic. And so after an investigation by the British Navy, the Navy determined that the crash wasn't the Navy's fault. That meant that the owners of the damaged Olympic, the White Star Line, they wouldn't get any kind of insurance settlement to cover the damages. So now the White Star Line had an extremely damaged ship that was likely beyond repair and no insurance payout to make up for the loss. So according to Gardner, they hatched a plan to quietly and secretly rebrand the damaged Olympic as the Titanic, switch all the names around, and then the rebranded Olympic, which was now called the Titanic, would be sent out on her first voyage and deliberately sunk for the insurance money.

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