How a Hair Disaster Built a Celebrity Colorist
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A lot of students out of beauty school, you know, they quit their first couple years because you're not going to make money right off the gate. It is a process, but you do have the potential. You're like, you start out with minimum wage, but then you end up, you have the potential to make more than a lawyer per hour if you really want to. So it's such a big contrast from starting out to where you can go.
Rick Wellman is a celebrity hair colorist, salon owner, author, and beauty industry expert with over four decades of experience. From celebrity clients to luxury salons and Rockefeller Center, Rick has built a career centered on artistry, transformation, and innovation.
My parents wanted to send me to college and pay me to go to school. And once they learned that I didn't want to go to school, I wanted to go to beauty school, my dad was very against it. That's a woman's job. I think that was one of the things that maybe inspired me to
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Hey, and welcome back everybody to living your legacy podcasts. I'll be your host again, Jay Slangen, and we're here in beautiful South beach during the world cup. There's a lot of stuff going on and we've got a special guest today. He's looking all fly. He's got great shoes. He's got great hair, cool shirt coming down from New York. Right. So, uh, yeah, introduce yourself and tell us a little about what's good. What's going on.
Thanks. Thanks. Uh, my name is Rick, uh, Wellman. I came here from New York city. Nice.
Which part? Right in Manhattan. Okay. Right in Manhattan. And I'll get more specific for all the Manhattanites.
So smack in the middle.
Okay.
I have a salon right in the middle, right at Rockefeller Plaza. All right.
Wow.
It's in the heart of it all. So we've got NBC Studios, Radio City. We just hosted a big thing for the Tony Awards, a glam pop-up.
Yeah.
yeah we're in the middle that is new york new york right the tree lighting happens right there yeah yeah yeah everything great okay so i'm from connecticut so you know been into the city a lot lived there for a summer okay used to work uh kayaking tours on the manhattan at the uh you know where the frying pan is yes yeah the fright right there i was actually it was Yeah. Little, you know, crazy story, but something happened there and I had to become a lifeguard at the frying pan club. Right. So you saved somebody. Yeah. I didn't personally save anyone, but I mean, it was just another lifetime, but yeah, I lived the whole new, and that was right before the twin towers. Right. So that's just give you some background, but I love New York.
And so you're in the, you're in the heartbeat. You are right there.
Heartbeat of New York, yes.
So what kind of people come into your salon?
Well, mostly it's business people. We have a very, very loyal clientele there. We've been in that location for 28 years through four different companies. It's a lot of things going on. A lot of business people, but you never know. It could be a celebrity pop in there. Usually incognito. And it's interesting. In New York, people really don't care. They're a celebrity. They get their hair done too. Just like everybody else.
Yeah. And so, I mean, 28 years, I mean, so much has changed in hair culture, right? In the past 28 years, right? So 28 years brings us to what, like 90s, 80s, late 80s?
Well, and that's, I'm just telling you, that's how long I've been at that location. I've been doing hair since 1982.
All right, so yeah, since the 80s, not just hair culture, but like hairstyles and so much. Yeah, yeah.
Everything changes. You're going to the male perms, the rock star, long hair.
Oh, I had one.
I had the mullet perm.
All right. Frosted.
Mullet, the business up front, party in the back, right?
That's right.
All right. uh so every everything's changed yeah and and yeah actually the mullet's coming back it is i know you know what i was trying to grow on a little yeah i just got it cut off yesterday it was becoming just too much too much party in the back yeah yeah i'm like yeah not for me
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–7:36
2
Why did Rick move his salon to Rockefeller Center and who are his typical clients?
7:36–14:23
3
How has hair culture and salon business changed since the 1980s?
14:23–23:53
4
What is balayage and how should a colorist decide if it's right for a client?
23:53–31:09