Nico Tortorella (@nicotortorella) stars as Josh on TV Land’s hit show, Younger, and is the author of the stunning recent book of poetry, all of it is you. Bethany Meyers (@bethanycmeyers), is a fitness phenomenon and the founder of the be.come project, a body-positive boutique workout app launching in July. They’ve been together for a decade, and celebrated their wedding several months ago (check out their stunning pictures here). They’re also renowned for celebrating fluidity in every element of their lives, from their gender identity to their sexual preferences to the state of their relationship. In this episode, we trace the course of their enviable relationship from the beginning. We talk about the first time they explored having other partners, how they cope with jealousy, Nico’s alcoholism and consequent sobriety, why they got married after all these years, and how their relationship has changed under the spotlight of fame. If you’ve ever considered an open relationship, or simply wanted to live a life a bit more free from the constant pressure of what’s expected, this is a must-listen episode: Nico and Bethany make their own rules like no two people I’ve ever met. It’s also worth staying till the end to hear a poem Nico wrote for Bethany, and their unborn child. For every episode of the Healthier Together podcast, there will be a corresponding giveaway and a challenge based on some of the guest’s shared wisdom—one week we might meditate, and another we might try a new skincare routine or tweak our diets, all in the name of actually getting healthier together (versus just listening to a podcast). Come join in (and enter to win!) on Instagram @lizmoody, or using the hashtag #htpodcast. Enjoy! This podcast is brought to you by Four Sigmatic. I’m extremely picky about the food I consume, and after doing a huge amount of research on mushrooms, I’ve become not only a fan but an evangelist. I don’t drink caffeine, so I use mushrooms to help me wake up in the morning (cordyceps), focus in the afternoon (lion’s mane), and calm down in the evening (reishi). I also use the chaga to bolster my immune system on trips (either cross-country or just on the arguably-more-disgusting NYC subway). This stuff REALLY works, and now I rarely go a day without it. Get 15% off your order using the code healthiertogether, or visiting foursigmatic.com/healthiertogether (and feel free to hit me up on Instagram @lizmoody with any questions—I could swan over shrooms till the end of time!). Healthier Together cover art by Zack. Healthier Together music by Alex Ruimy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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