Chapter 1: What prompted Kate and Harper to have this conversation?
Okay, I know I'm not on the podcast anymore, but I thought I would at least make this video for your sake. I call Harper over and she's coming over here so we can talk and figure things out. I know that everything that's happened has been like a bit ridiculous, so I thought it'd be better for her to just come over and we can talk in person.
We did talk briefly before, but not very much, so we're doing a talk now. And she knows that we're gonna be filming it. And we don't know if it's gonna get posted. I guess it just depends on how it goes. If it goes good, we'll post it. If it goes bad, we'll probably let it never see the light of day. But she's almost here. So now I'm just gonna wait. I've been in here forever. I know.
Oh my gosh, Cash, he has so much snacks. I know, he has all this food there. So, how have you been? Fine. Don't mind me. You're good. I'm just gonna set this down. Okay. He has a lot of things on his thing. Yeah, he has a lot of snacks. Well. This is so weird. Okay. I know, why are we not upstairs? Well, I wanted to talk. It's just everyone's out there. Yeah.
It would be better if we talked alone. But I wanted to talk about everything that's happened. Yeah. It's a bit ridiculous. Mm-hmm. I agree, too. And, like, I think it's, like, good to talk about it.
Yeah.
And just end everything. Well, it has been ended, but, like, just, like, talk it through because, like, it was stupid. Yeah.
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Chapter 2: How did Kate and Harper feel about their recent disagreements?
And, like, immature. Yeah. But, and, like, on both sides, too. Not just, as I was saying, you. You know? That's so crazy. Because I would say you. But that's fine. That's why we're going to talk. Yeah. No, I'm kidding. No, and... You see, I just... I don't know why it was, like, really weird the last few weeks. Yeah.
And, like, you were coming over to film even after I, like, quit the podcast and stuff. And we were just avoiding each other. I know. And, like, I know that, like... That was stupid. And I know that I called you a grown woman. And you're not... I mean, you are a grown woman. Like... No, I know. I just, like... And also, like, I was so, like...
moody because like i'm just going through like everything like coming home packing and packing yeah and i definitely i was i was really upset not even at you i was just upset a lot because like a lot has happened in my life too and i was just like i don't know for sure but yeah i feel like i was just like irritated at like everything
And then I just like took it out on you and it just like blew up. No. Yeah. I like, I feel like the exact same way. Like we were both going through things and then it was just like, it got to the point where like, you know what? Like I can't treat anybody with respect right now because I don't have respect for myself. Yeah. That's so sad. Well, I mean like,
Like, kind of in a way, but... Wait, what do you mean by that, though? That's sad. Well, like, I didn't have, like, crazy respect for myself because I could just go back and I was upset with my family, upset with myself, upset with everybody. Yeah. So I was like, what's the point of treating anybody nicely if I can't even treat myself nicely, you know? Yeah, that's sad. I know.
But it's fine, because I'm better now, obviously. Are you? Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah... I also feel like the podcast just made it a lot bigger than it needed to be. Yeah, I feel like... I feel like... Which is so stupid that... But I feel like TikTok made it bigger than it was, too. Yeah. Because we... Like, we did the podcast and stuff, and then...
like after that the clips were like people clipped it up and stuff and it was really bad and anytime like the clippers get a hold of anything it's so bad it gets like blown out of proportion which isn't it's honestly like it is not their fault we're the ones who say the thing yeah said stuff and then posted it but i feel like the clippers like got it and really had it going for a minute and then the purple brain video oh yeah okay i know i posted that
But then you posed with the same thing.
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Chapter 3: What were the main issues that caused tension between Kate and Harper?
I know, it's so bad. Oh, it was horrible. So like, did you think I was immature? We recently decided to take a weekend to explore a city none of us had ever been to. We ended up in this little ski town in Montana, fresh snow, no schedules, and no expectations.
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Yeah, I told you that. I know. I was, I was being, okay. Well, you didn't tell it to me. You said it behind my back. No, I said it to you. And then when we were filming the podcast, I was like, I just feel like we need to be more mature and stay on topic and not bounce around as much. And it wasn't even, like, you specifically. I feel like everyone on the podcast can get really bad about that.
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Chapter 4: How did social media influence Kate and Harper's relationship?
Like, I just feel like we weren't, like, I feel like the right way to, like, end something is just by talking to each other about it. Yeah. And we were just constantly avoiding each other even when we were in the same house. I know, like, you would come over and I would, like, come to my room. Yeah. And, like, we wouldn't talk. And, no, I know that's so, I know it's so childish.
And I feel like it's really out of character for me. Like, I've never, like. No. I feel like I've never done anything like that. Does my voice sound, like, different or raspy? No. Like when I go down like this. It sounds a little like. Like what happened? I'm so nervous. With what?
Well I went to the doctor today and to check on my like the globalitis thing and they're just like it's anxiety and it's not anxiety. Like I don't know what it is. It might be if they said it was. I don't know. But we did blood work and stuff. I'll tell you the story after we solve this. But um. Yeah. I basically was just like
Like, yeah, you went to your room, like, every time I would try to... Well, any time I would come over, I wouldn't try to talk to you. I would just, like... No, I feel like after you'd walked upstairs and I was like, she's immature, you were just kind of, like, done. Which is valid. You made your attempt. And then I was just like, screw Harper.
Well, it's, like, fine because, like, I've done the same thing with other friends where it's like, okay, if you're going to talk or if I'm going to talk about them and they hear it, then I'm embarrassed almost. So I just don't want to say anything.
yeah I don't know no I wasn't even but the thing is is like I wanted to talk to you but then I just realized I was like she's so mad at me too though like I don't know I felt like it was never an appropriate time so I felt like you were just constantly like irritated I felt like yeah you were always around people but then I felt like every time you saw me you were just like not happy to see me and I was not super thrilled either but yeah I don't know I just I don't know no I yeah I mean like
I think that now it's basically over, and it's just, like... I feel like it only became, like, over, though, because we just stopped talking about it to each other and social media. Well, we didn't even... I feel like we didn't even become friends again. That's the thing. It's, like, why I wanted to call you over here is because, like...
We just, like, started ignoring the problem and it was never fixed. Yeah. And even though it's, like, we've, like, made peace on the internet or whatever, it's, like... In real life, it's not really the same. No, and I just... I don't know. And I wanted to, like... And, like, I've seen so many comments about, like, me and you. And been tagged in so many videos. And so many people ask me about it.
I know, and it's, like... Like, at the same time, like, I'm, like, oh, dang, like, I really agree with them. But I also know that, like... the internet doesn't see everything and like the times we did talk or like texted each other or anything like I don't know no I mean like also
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Chapter 5: What did Kate and Harper learn about communication during their conflict?
And my vein literally almost popped. She did so much of it. I literally saw vein pulsing. I can't watch blood get drawn. It makes me nervous. But then I put you back on my story. Yeah. I saw that. I saw your cards getting wrapped. Yeah. And then also, did you see the last time that my leg was pulsing?
yeah that was weird everything's happening like everything wrong is happening like my leg is pulsing my vein is i will say that's happened to me though too and like it's nothing really you just have like a pulse throughout your body like you can touch like anywhere like you can touch your wrist behind your ear your legs your chest you can touch like a lot of your body and just like feel your pulse because your heart is beating and that's a good thing i don't know why is it just in that one place i don't know sometimes like your body just twitches and stuff
like a muscle spasm yeah like it wasn't i don't think it's anything to be worried about i hope not no i know you kind of freak out with like things i think you're okay yeah and then on your period do you gain weight yeah actually yeah are you sure no i swear
does that happen for everybody i think a lot of people yeah because i was freaking out because like at the doctor's office i was like more than i thought and i was yeah no that's really normal yeah but it's also because your body is just like retaining more fluid too and like you you blow it up just because like your hormones like fluctuate all throughout your cycle and so does it go away when your period ends yeah i feel like for me like usually once my period is i notice i'm like yeah it's gone but i also lost my period for six months and this is the first time i had it back what
mm-hmm wait me like so basically for like ever since august of 2025 i haven't had my period oh i don't know i think it's just stress and like i had like a lot of different eating imbalances yeah that year and so that's why i think it went away i have no idea oh i'm glad you got it back and then i had it back for like a day in um December. Yeah. But then I didn't get it at all.
And then I just finally got it back. So maybe like that's why I'm getting so much weight on my period. Yeah.
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I don't think that has anything to do with it. I think it's really just like your hormones fluctuate all throughout when your hormones fluctuate. So it was like the, how much water you retain in your body and like all that. It usually like holds. Yeah. And usually when you like gain weight during your period, it's just like literally just like bloat and water weight. Really? Like it goes away.
Like, you know how like when you go to bed at night, you weigh more than you do when you wake up in the morning. Yes. Cause that's just cause it's like water weight. But how does it go away overnight if you don't pee? Uh, I think sometimes it's like sweat.
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Chapter 6: How did Kate and Harper resolve their differences?
Like, you guys, like, filmed a few. And then I saw, like, you guys were talking about bringing someone else on. And then Kato came for, yeah. So, Kato's on. Just for right now. Like, you don't know. Honestly, I like Kato, but I like you better on the podcast. Even... She's really crazy. You're just saying that. No, I'm not saying that. Trust me. Please go look at the episode. Really?
I didn't even watch it. It was making me sad. I, like, almost watched it. And then, like, when you guys were filming because it's, like, at our house, I, like, left. Because you can't. I was, like, sad. I was, like, dang. I don't know. It's weird. Like, I wanted to. I feel like I did just was, like, I was so tired and exhausted and, like, things weren't good with you. And it was, like, awkward.
Are you pregnant? No. I wish, but no. I feel like you are. I feel like you're hiding it. I'm not. I'm not. I don't know. I wish I was. And, like, about what we were talking about earlier, like, just about the whole thing. Like, I hate, like, bringing it up because... No, like, I want to talk about it, though, completely. I do. Like, I want to talk about it.
Because I don't want to, like, talk about it now, like, halfway and then just still, like, be irritated with each other or something. And still have, like, feelings. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, I was kind of hurt. Well, I was pretty hurt when you were, like... I feel like we just need to be more mature about this. And I don't really remember what you said because I was pissed. Or, sorry.
I was just mad. Yeah. And then...
obviously I walked downstairs and then I went to my car and all that and I know that I kind of overreacted in a way but also it just was weighing on me just the fact that like anytime I would come over you wouldn't you know like wouldn't be here and I was like yeah I was like I just want to talk like yeah and then I posted that TikTok and yeah I could obviously tell that you were a little hurt by that well I posted one back too because I thought it'd be funny and then it kind of hurt my feelings when you're like
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Chapter 7: What future plans do Kate and Harper have for their podcast?
I thought I was being funny, I'm sorry. And I was like, what? But, like... Well, at the time, even when that was posted for, like, both of us, I felt like we weren't even, like, at our peak, like, madness. I feel like we were both just, like, irritated with each other, and we were just like, oh, it'll be, like, kind of funny, but also kind of low-key true, but, like, also whatever. Yeah.
And then, yeah, just, like, kind of, like, spiraled from there and, like, continued to escalate because of people reposting it and commenting it. And, like, both of the videos ended up doing, like...
really good which is crazy but then also i know that i also like made like another video after that too where i was like i hope i don't get a diss track written about me because i thought it'd be funny and then it was funny obviously like but then i was like i'm just not gonna post any more about it because i just don't i know escalate as i thought i was being funny that's the thing is i wasn't even like it was funny everybody was like haha i know
But then at the same time, I was like, uh, what? No, but you know what actually made me mad? What? When we were, like, in this little, like, whatever, I went on my backup TikTok, and, like, I did a draft dump on my backup.
and but it happened i did it like the same like time that all this was happening i thought you're gonna be like like okay keep going wait what do you think i was gonna say oh well everyone was like thought i was like posting them at you and stuff and i was like no those are videos i literally filmed like over the last year it was just like random drafts and i posted all of them oh on your secret on like my backup yeah you know my backup yeah yeah
baby photo of you yeah yeah what's it called like underscore kate marine i didn't i haven't seen them but like no but i like all my comments were just like people were like you're so and that's what like really and my feelings this isn't even your fault my feelings were so hurt though because like all the comments i felt like were being really mean to me too because they were all like oh you're grown and you're the one that should be apologizing and stuff and
And I think we were both in the wrong, not just you. No, I know. But that's what I'm saying, is, like, like, the, like, people on social media, like, just don't see everything, and they, like, jump to conclusions, and just, like, I don't know, they pick a side, and they run it, and then they, like, literally. And then, like, they're making Team Harper, Team Kato. Yeah. I was like.
No, actually, you know, I think Maverick started that. That's ridiculous. I know. Maverick was here for the drama. He loved it. I know. And he literally kept asking me about it. Yeah. He became buddy-buddy with Kato. I was like, ugh. Yeah. How do you feel about that? I don't know. Sorry, I caught my pimple. But, like, I don't know how I feel.
Like, it's kind of weird with Caden on the podcast, especially because he doesn't live in Texas. Yeah. But, like, they seem to click right away when he came on the podcast, which is great because he's our new host, I guess. But it's just, like, I don't know. I know, but, like, I mentioned before when I was talking to them, kind of, like, I don't know, it was, like, briefly one time.
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Chapter 8: How do Kate and Harper feel about their friendship moving forward?
I don't know. It's just super weird. No, like, when I was gone, like, I felt, like, an empty piece of me. Really? I can't imagine how you're feeling. No. Well, like, because you can literally go and film it right now. Yeah. But, like, I couldn't. Yeah. So I don't know how you're feeling. Like, that's, like, really hard. Yeah.
Yeah, well, I would imagine that it's probably worse for you because you, like, didn't have the choice. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know. I mean, like, I think that you always have the option to come back because Cash is literally your husband and you literally live in the house that it's filmed in. Yeah.
No, I mean, everyone's made it very clear that if I wanted to come back, the option is always on the table. But I'd also feel like a weenie if I do that.
go back like what if i quit i literally like what quit for freaking three weeks or whatever and then come back that's so stupid of me it's not stupid it's just like you needed a break and like it was a well-needed break too no i know and but that's so stupid for me to be like i'm quitting and i'm never coming back and then just be like i'm back wait what did you say on the podcast i said i'm quitting and i'm never coming back were you like really mad
no it was like a really really rough i'm quitting and never coming back i wasn't mad i was really sad because it was like i was quitting and it was what i wanted to be doing was quit but i also was like super super sad because it was like something that's been a part of my life for so long i was just like giving up and i was sad about it so that's like it was like a sad episode and it was also just i don't know very very rough week i had a cold months i've had
You have a cold? I have a cold. Are you seriously sick right now? I don't know. Oh. Well, like, my nose is stuffy. Yeah. But I don't know. You must have some allergies. Yes. Yes. But, like, literally, I just want to say I'm sorry. Like, I mean, I know I've said that a lot, but, like, genuinely from the bottom of my heart, I really am sorry about everything. And, like, I love you, like, to death.
Like, you've always been there for me. You've always, like, been my, like, older sister. You have an older sister. Don't say that. Well, like, you've always been my other older sister. My older, older sister. You're older than your older sister. Imagine if I was, like, you've been the older sister I've never had. Uh, that would be very offensive to your sister. I would hope you never say that.
She just doesn't watch the podcast, though. But, like, actually, and, like, she's in college, so I don't even hang out with her. No, but you still talk to her. She literally just tried to call you, I saw earlier. Yeah. On your phone. But, no, I love you so much. No, and I'm sorry, too.
I know I was very irrational and rude, and I know I'm the older one, and I should have been more mature about all of it, and I'm sorry that I wasn't. It's okay. I love you. I love you. Aww. We're friends again. I love you. I miss you. I miss you so much. Aww. I'm being stretched in a way they shouldn't be. Wait. Oh, this is so exciting. Yay. Okay, well now it doesn't have to be awkward anymore.
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