Episode 042: Seattle, Washington. Steven Rinella talks with wildlife biologist Bart George along with Ryan Callaghan, Land Tawney, and MeatEater's Janis Putelis. Subjects discussed: caribou in the lower-48; what's up with anadromous, catadromous, and adfluvial fish; Teddy Roosevelt's guided caribou hunt; lumpers and splitters, and how to tell the difference; hard (hot) releasing vs. soft (cold) releasing; Mr. Tom, a caribou killin' mountain lion; collaring animals; inherent risks of capturing wild animals; American vs. Canadian predator control; genetic drift; the charismatic mega fauna list; a barometer of wilderness; the warner-bratzler shear force test; and the three things necessary for caribou recovery in the lower-48. Connect with Steve and MeatEaterSteve on Instagram and TwitterMeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YoutubeShop MeatEater Merch Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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