The Megyn Kelly Show
Bill Clinton's TRUE Epstein Ties, and New Guthrie Case Videos Revealed, with Mike Benz, Fitz and O'Connell | Ep. 1262
27 Feb 2026
Chapter 1: What are the latest developments in the Nancy Guthrie case?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday. We have new video in the case of Nancy Guthrie. We will break down whether it is providing any promising leads in the investigation with Fitz and Maureen just a bit.
And a legend in the legal community discovered to be carrying on a double life convicted on the charges against. I'm sorry, but my legal world has been rocked. by the conviction of this guy Tom Goldstein.
He is truly one of the most respected lawyers in America, one of the elite members of the Supreme Court bar, which is not easy to get into, the founder of SCOTUSblog, where all lawyers go whenever there is a big Supreme Court case. And He's been convicted. This guy is almost certainly heading to prison for a long time.
He turned down a plea deal of five years because he was like, I'm not serving time. He was leading a whole double life. I mean, a total double life. He was cheating on his wife. He was using women off of some website for like sugar daddies. He is like about five foot seven, bald, as dweeby legal looking as you get.
You know, just like your quintessential, like what you picture when you picture like geeky Supreme Court lawyer. So well respected there. Guarantee all nine justices know him and have probably socialized with him. And the whole while in the past seven, eight years, he's been flying all over the world. He's been winning and losing fortunes at every turn.
He was convicted of lying about it all on his tax returns, understating his income on the winning year so he didn't have to pay taxes on it.
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Chapter 2: What shocking news about a respected lawyer is revealed?
Not disclosing his debts when he applied for mortgages, which is a serious problem. You're $15 million in debt and you want to get a $3 million loan for a home. You better disclose that. That's relevant. It's crazy to me. It's just crazy to me that this, like, this can happen, right? It's like... Who else out there is leading this like respectable life? And then you find out it's all a facade.
It's a facade. They're smart. A lot of these guys, they're clever. This guy has no adrenaline. None. There's no adrenaline flow in him. He kind of talked about it at these high stake poker games where he was winning 10 or 20 million dollars. And then the next day he'd be in front of the Supreme Court arguing some massive case for like Google. Um, they're built differently.
Maybe they're sociopaths. I don't know, but I'm very interested in this. And it's not totally unrelated to the story we're going to kick off the show with, which is Epstein. Not that Goldstein was linked to Epstein. He wasn't. But I'm just talking about like the facade that these prominent people put on. And it can be women.
Ghislaine Maxwell is one who comes to mind, possibly Hillary Clinton, though she denies even knowing Epstein. But Ghislaine Maxwell, certainly, and she was friends with Hillary. Mostly men, though, out there making gazillions of dollars. You know, the paragon of virtue, the principal person, the picture of responsibility.
And behind the scenes, you know, what's with the weird grape soda and pizza emails over and over between Epstein and his accountant? And what's with President Bill Clinton as soon as he's out of office? And we're not talking like, you know, 20 years past. And he was like, no one's paying attention to me anymore. I'm going to go see this pervert Jeffrey Epstein.
I mean, right after I showed you the picture yesterday of my friends with Bill Clinton in 1999. By the way, that's literally the picture on the front of The New York Post's homepage right now. And. And like it's Abby Rittman and Meg Florence, they're together in 1999 in this restaurant right outside or right in D.C. And they were 20 at the time. Now they're closer to my age. But look at him.
This dog is still president and he's staring down the blouse of my one friend and his hand is dangerously close to my friend's side boob. OK, this is he's still in office. His wife and daughter are across the restaurant. And my friends gave me this photo like a while back. They were like, look at this. We had a good laugh over it. I'm like, you know, I'm going to put that on the air.
And today seemed like a good day yesterday because the Clintons are testifying on Epstein. But my point is like brazen, brazen, right? Like hiding in plain sight. So Bill Clinton goes from that right after Lewinsky to palling around with Jeffrey Epstein in 2000 through 2004 or five around there. In that man's hot tub with all these women. It's incredible. It's incredible what happens.
And I'm sure it's still happening with people other than Epstein right now. He's sitting right now in the same seat his wife was in yesterday up in Chappaqua, New York. I've been up there. They have this beautiful home. It's like picturesque on this rolling hill type property. They're living large, the Clintons. They've got lots of staff.
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Chapter 3: How are Bill Clinton's ties to Jeffrey Epstein examined?
American News Minute. We send it out once a week. We send you an email with all the news of the week. You can sign up at megankelly.com. And I'm going to include a link to their letter that they wrote. It is the most absurd, self-aggrandizing thing you've ever read.
It waxes poetic about all the reasons that this is so unjust that we're calling them in there to testify and how terrible this government is. And they will fight. They will be the ones. They have the wherewithal. They have the means. They rolled over like Rover just as soon as James Comer was like, well, I will send you to prison and I have a Department of Justice ready to pursue those charges.
I mean, immediately. So that's how they got here under protest. But now Bill Clinton says the reason I am here is that the girls and women whose lives Epstein destroyed deserve not only justice, but healing. You didn't want to show up. You said there comes a time in every man's life where he has to decide whether he's going to fight, and that time is now.
You only went in once Comer threatened you with prison. They started off lying. It's like unbelievable. Here's the third paragraph.
Though my brief acquaintance with Epstein ended years before his crimes came to light, and though I never witnessed during our limited interactions any indication of what was truly going on, I'm here to offer what little I know so that it might prevent anything like this from ever happening again. You made Hillary come in. She had nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. Nothing.
No matter how many photos you show me, I have two things that at the end of the day matter more than your interpretation of those 20-year-old photos. I know what I saw and more importantly what I didn't see. I know what I did and more importantly what I didn't do. I saw nothing and I did nothing wrong. You'll often hear me say that I don't recall.
Oh, he's setting the table before he says anything. That might be unsatisfying, but I'm not going to say something I'm not sure of. That was all a long time ago. It ends with that, Mr. Chairman. Fire away. This is a man who's already lied under oath. Depends on what the definition of is is. And that's what he was impeached for because he lied under oath.
Threatened with disbarment because he's a lawyer. And so that's what we're getting under oath today. Not exactly a proven truth teller. And already he sets the table with you're going to hear me say I don't recall. That's his favorite, among other dishonest people's favorite trick for getting out of telling hard truths. Yes, some honest people also don't recall.
But over and over and over, we're to the point where you need to set it up before you even begin testifying. This stinks to high heaven. No one believes we're going to get the straight skinny from him at all. But I'm glad they're putting him through the exercise. Let's get him on the record. Let's try. Why should he be treated differently than Les Wexner, who stinks to high heaven, too?
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Chapter 4: What insights does Mike Benz provide about Epstein's connections?
Anonymous. Goodbye. And, you know, we'll see whether it shakes anything loose. Maureen, I want to talk to you about the video. It's very interesting to me that this gets dropped by Fox News last night, which has been doing very good reporting on this. Fox has. And they find, I want to read you the way they describe it. I know you're familiar, but the audience.
It's a resident of the Catalina Foothills neighborhood, that's Nancy's, who has a street-facing ring cam that caught 12 cars passing by in the morning. Nancy disappeared. The recording goes from midnight to 6 a.m. on February 1st. That's the relevant time frame. And the activity occurred near the 2.30 a.m. mark. That's the relevant time.
The homeowners, Elias and Danielle Stradigulius, told Fox Digital that the police had not canvassed their neighborhood at all in all the time since Nancy went missing. The FBI and the Pima County Sheriff's Department have been alerted to the video, writes Fox Digital. Not immediately clear whether the video is of any use to the investigation. This is last night.
The Stradigulius house is on a back road, Fox writes, North Camino Real, that leads out of Guthrie's neighborhood, avoiding major intersections. Leads out of Guthrie's neighborhood, avoiding major intersections. And they live about 2.5 miles away from the crime scene, which is outside the two mile radius of neighbors who received a ring alert asking for video taken from Jan 1 to Feb 2. So
The concentric circle drawn by law enforcement did not include this house, but this couple nonetheless checked their ring camera and found something they think may be of relevance. Their house, writes Fox, is roughly a seven-minute drive from Guthrie's address, as I mentioned in the intro. One of their videos was recorded around 2.36 a.m.,
which is roughly eight minutes after Guthrie's pacemaker last synced with her iPhone. So the timing would work. Danielle said the number of cars passing that night was not unusual, but she and a friend found it odd that no one from law enforcement had visited the neighborhood.
The route itself had been flagged to Fox News Digital by another neighbor who said she also saw a suspicious man walking in the area on Feb. 2. which would have been Monday, around the corner from what appeared to be an abandoned car.
And then finally, she says she described that man as five foot nine inches tall, Hispanic with a close trim beard and wearing a silver bracelet, smoking a cigarette. And then this is actually the final point. Another unidentified man was spotted in mid-January, according to a different neighbor who did not have your typical walking gear on. He had his hat pulled really far down over his
His eyes, he was just walking in the neighborhood near an intersection leading to Guthrie's home, leading to Guthrie's home, and hadn't encountered him before or after. Kind of younger, just didn't look like he was going out for a walk. She thought he was suspicious. Now we get the TMZ report today saying our FBI source has looked at the video and says it's a dead end.
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Chapter 5: What investigative actions could have been taken last night in the case?
They found out who those people were. They could have dispatched agents to those houses last night at midnight, for all we know. And they could have followed their phones wherever they went, all the way to an investigative end, so to speak. So they could have done a lot of work last night.
And it wouldn't be the first time a police officer or an FBI agent showed up at your door in the middle of the night, because they probably wanted to really hammer this down. We don't know that that happened.
Chapter 6: What insights are shared about the new Ring camera footage?
We don't know that that Whatever. I don't, you know, all I can say is I would expect one or two of those vehicles to have no telematics pinging or nothing from phones pinging if these were, if this was our offender or maybe two, you know, two vehicles.
Yeah, the follow-up reporting, Fitz, from Fox was, per Michael Ruiz, Pima County detectives arrived at the home of the Stradigulises yesterday on Camito Real, where the new Ring video was taken. So it does appear that in response to the Fox News digital report, they went there and they spoke with this couple.
And then by this morning, not the Pima County Sheriff's detectives, but the FBI, which has been...
Chapter 7: What are the implications of Savannah Guthrie's cash reward announcement?
somehow Harvey's source in this whole thing is saying it's a dead end. He puts it as a, yeah, quote, it is a dead end. The area where the cars are driving, as well as the ingress and egress has led the agency to the conclusion that the cars have no association with the kidnapping.
Well, Maureen did an eloquent job of explaining the cell tower markers and what's coming out of the car and all those type of things. But I think all of us rely on what's worked for us in the past and investigations and the technology, of course, maybe DNA, if we're lucky, will ultimately perhaps help solve this case. But I also, in earlier cases I worked,
my police career, as well as even FBI in New York and later as a profiler, reaching out to the public is always an interesting way to sort of narrow the suspect pool. And it's certainly in a situation like this.
And I would like to see, perhaps on the part of the Sheriff's Department, the FBI, to put something out there like, all right, everybody, we all know about this crime that occurred, when it occurred, where. Can we ask for anybody who was driving in that area
If you're in the range of the internet, which of course everyone is, is what's going to be posted, and you were out there driving, could you contact us and let us know? And just maybe you saw something.
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Chapter 8: What concerns arise from the handling of the investigation?
You're not a suspect. Maybe you saw something, a car went by, somebody pulled over, doing something strange. And then these videos that there may be more videos coming in. There may be some we don't know about also. And do your best to slow everything down, blow them up. There's there's technology now they can make it probably read the tags.
And then if a person in one of these cars is not does not contact the FBI or the sheriff's department. Doesn't mean they're guilty of anything, but that's something I think we'd want to talk to them. They can have an affair and they shouldn't be out, you know, doing what they're doing at 3 a.m., whatever.
But let's try to get people to come forward and say, yeah, I was driving right in that neighborhood or, you know, a mile away or two miles away. If you're on some of these back roads that you described, Megan, I don't know the area well, but I'm looking at the map. This is not a wrong turn you made. You're there for a reason. You know where you're going, most likely.
And clearly the person who took Nancy knew where he was going.
I just put out there, hey, anyone who's driving, you know, between 1 a.m. and 3, they can make it anytime they want. Can you just contact us and let us know? And if they do identify some cars, tags, ownership, et cetera, and that person didn't call, That doesn't mean they're guilty, but at least move them up a few notches on the suspect list and let's do some more follow up with them.
That's how I would go about this. They may have already. Well, they haven't done the posting as far as I know. If you were driving around, let us know.
But but OK, let's let's keep going, because they're the only other like truly interesting thing I've seen in the case over the past couple of days is the following headline from Brianna Whitney, reporter for Arizona Family News. And it is follows.
On Wednesday evening at 7.21 p.m., she posted, multiple people have asked me what the status is on Annie Guthrie's car after it was taken for processing in the case. And that was taken for processing the first week that Nancy had disappeared. I asked Pima County Sheriff's Department today and just received this response.
Quote, all we can say at this time, the vehicle is still part of the investigation. WTF, Maureen.
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