Delta Force Operator John McPhee on Afghan War Stories, Keys to Leadership, and America as a Friend | Ep. 1080
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How did John McPhee start his military journey?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. On this Memorial Day, we honor all of the brave men and women who have made the ultimate sacrifice to keep the United States of America free and prosperous. As we do every Memorial Day, we are bringing you the story of a remarkable veteran and what a story this vet has. Joining me today is retired U.S. Army Special Operations Sergeant Major John McPhee, a.k.a. the Sheriff of Baghdad. John served our country for over 20 years, specializing in various special mission units and combat experience across multiple theaters, including Afghanistan and Iraq, where he hunted both Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. I would like to introduce you to a new brand of Angus beef. You can order it directly from Riverbend Ranch, which is located just a few miles from West Yellowstone, Montana.
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Thank you.
How are you doing?
Pretty good, pretty good. Quite a lead up there.
Well, my God, I mean, you've done a lot.
I've tried, I've tried.
When I say that, when you hear that intro read, given all the time that you spent serving the country, what's the one that you focus on? That's the one thing that really kind of defined the service in my mind.
Man, kind of none of that, I guess. You know what I mean? Later in the war, as leadership, like... that was a challenge. You know what I mean? Those like the battle of Tora Bora, I was a new guy, like, let's go kill everybody. You know what I mean? And then the war rages on, you learn, you're more experienced. Uh, you just learn as it goes on, you're going to learn different lessons. Everybody's going to do this. Uh, and I think the lessons I learned as a young guy is, Uh, weren't the lessons I needed. Really? Yeah. Everybody learns, right?
I thought everyone makes mistakes. When I read your bio, I thought the opposite because you had a very rough childhood and I thought it made him one tough SOB.
Maybe. Yeah.
And you know, capable of doing what needed to be done in like the darkest days of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm a regular, I tell, I tell everyone this, uh, I'm a regular guy. I do everything everyone else does. Uh, I joined the army and I think when, when nine 11 happened, I was too far in to like choose a different life. You know what I mean? Mm hmm.
Let's start back at the young John. South side of Chicago?
Yeah.
Only white kid in the class?
What challenges did John face during his childhood?
Yeah, for a long time.
How'd that happen?
I don't know. You get in fights. You go to ding-dong. They call it ding-dong school. That's where kids that fight all the time. And you end up there.
How did your parents settle in a neighborhood where you would wind up being the only white kid in class?
That's where we lived. It's South Chicago. It's where we lived. You know what I mean? I would say the South Chicago of the 70s, 80s was like a different place.
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Chapters
8 chapters
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How did John McPhee start his military journey?
0:00–3:49
2
What challenges did John face during his childhood?
3:49–6:28
3
What was it like for John to serve in Delta Force?
6:28–18:42
4
What were John's experiences in Tora Bora?
18:42–20:24
5
How did 9/11 affect John McPhee's military career?
20:24–21:41
6
What are John's thoughts on the military-industrial complex?
21:41–25:29
7
How does John view the impact of his military service?
25:29–26:08
8
What lessons does John have about leadership?
26:08–1:18:07
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