The Megyn Kelly Show
SBA Fraud Probed, RFK Jr and Hegseth Targeted for Impeachment, In-N-Out Bans “6-7”: AM Update 12/11
11 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Good morning, everyone. I'm Emily Jashinsky, host of After Party and the Megyn Kelly Wrap-Up Show on Sirius XM Channel 111. It's Thursday, December 11th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.
Unfortunately, the SBA's 8-day program has been a magnet for fraudsters since its inception.
Another federal program under multiple investigations following accusations of rampant fraud and abuse. Customs and Border Protection considers screening social media histories for some travelers seeking entry into the U.S.
I introduced articles to impeach Secretary Pete Hexeth.
RFK Jr. has got to go. Two Democrat lawmakers filing performative articles of impeachment against two top Trump cabinet officials. And a fast food chain takes a stand against a viral meme craze. You know the one. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
Thank you so much for having me.
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Chapter 2: What fraud issues are being investigated in the SBA's 8(a) program?
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federal contracting program intended for, quote, experienced small business owners who are socially and economically disadvantaged, including Black, Hispanic, Native, and other groups, now the target of investigations by the Small Business Administration, or SBA, the Treasury Department, and the Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship, amid accusations of rampant fraud.
Historically, about 5% of government contracts were set aside under what is known as the 8A program, the Biden administration tripling the goal to 15% of total government contracts. In fiscal year 2024, the program handing out $40 billion in awards.
In June, one government official and three executives pleading guilty to a decade-long bribery scheme involving at least 14 contracts totaling more than $550 million. Prosecutors saying the government official sidestepped the competitive bidding process to steer lucrative contracts under the 8A program to executives who were paying him kickbacks.
SBA Administrator Kelly Leffler ordering a review of the program to identify similar examples of misconduct.
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Chapter 3: What new vetting rules are being proposed for travelers entering the U.S.?
In October, investigative journalist James O'Keefe releasing a video further exposing alleged fraud within the program. The director of contracts for an 8A company explaining to O'Keefe how businesses in the program are able to win the contracts, then pass off the majority of the work through subcontractors.
and i tell you pass-throughs are a great thing as well tell me about those well so we'll pass through because you're native american right if you have uh there's a big bid out and there's a company that wants to bid on that that's not native american all they do is partner with you they use their people they you subcontract to them right they're your subs so a lot of our subcontractors
bid on contracts that were perfect in their industry, but because they weren't Native American, they wouldn't win it. So we bid on it for them, they became our sub, and it's an automatic win. because of the government's status. You automatically will win that contract because of your Native American status. There's no bidding.
Chapter 4: Why were articles of impeachment filed against Secretaries Hegseth and RFK Jr.?
There's no bidding war.
The director telling O'Keeffe their company completes about 20% of the work, passing off the remaining 80% to other contractors in violation of rules regarding subcontracting. That company is now under investigation by the SBA. O'Keefe's reporting triggering an additional wave of investigations.
The Treasury Department in November announcing its own probe into the program, covering about $9 billion worth of contracts.
Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa, head of the Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship, sending letters to 22 agency heads, including the Department of War, Interior, DOJ, and more, requesting that they pause 8A contracting and conduct internal reviews of those contracts within their agencies. Yesterday, Senator Ernst's committee holding a hearing on the matter.
The senator outlining inherent issues that result from issuing contracts based on skin color rather than merit.
Unfortunately, the SBA's 8A program has been a magnet for fraudsters since its inception. When 8A programs divert government contracts to businesses committing fraud, legitimate small businesses pay the price, losing jobs, revenue, and growth opportunities. Government contracting should be based on eligibility and merit, not skin color.
I promise to make Washington squeal, and it is clear that this pigpen of a swamp needs a thorough mucking out.
Democrats, led by Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts, largely belittling the need for the hearing.
Today's hearing is called Running Government Like a Small Business, Cut Waste, Crush Fraud.
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Chapter 5: How is In-N-Out responding to the viral '6-7' meme?
A more accurate title, however, would be Running Government Like a Trump Family Business, Cutting Deals with Billionaires and Crushing Small Businesses. As we're focusing on waste, fraud, and abuse, you know, there's just so much of that rampant in this regime that I hardly know where to begin. The administration's most recent fixation?
SBA's 8A program, which is a program that gives small, disadvantaged businesses training, technical assistance, and federal contracting opportunities for nine years. Now, those businesses are principally black and brown owned in our country. That's who they're focusing on.
Investigative reporter Luke Rosiak, who has extensively covered fraud within the program, testifying that it no longer serves its original purpose.
The program was created in 1978, mostly to help Black Americans start businesses since they'd been discriminated against by the government. But I don't believe any member of this committee would support the program if you see how it works a half century later. At least 5% of all federal contracting dollars are diverted through set-asides.
But these billions don't go to poor minorities in your states. They go to insiders in the suburbs of D.C., which are already the wealthiest counties in the country.
Earlier this week, SBA Administrator Kelly Loeffler issuing letters requiring all 4,300 8A firms to submit financial records covering the last three years, as Senator Ernst has introduced legislation to halt all awards under the program until an audit is complete.
The Trump administration is preparing to require foreign travelers from more than three dozen countries to submit their last five years of social media history before being allowed into the U.S., U.S. Customs and Border Protection on Tuesday filing notice of the proposal in the Federal Register, the government's official public notice system.
The proposal applying to visitors seeking electronic travel authorization, a visa waiver program for certain countries, to enter the U.S. for up to 90 days. The current guidelines requiring travelers from countries like Australia, France, Germany, Ireland, Qatar, Spain, and the UK to pay $40 and provide a home address, phone number, email address, and emergency contact.
The proposal calling for a more thorough vetting, including all of the traveler's personal and business phone numbers from the last five years, email addresses from the last 10 years, plus names, birthdays, places of birth, and addresses of family members.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of the SBA's 8(a) program fraud revelations?
Enough is enough. And that is why I'm pushing to impeach RFK Jr.
The impeachment resolution accusing Secretary Kennedy of abusing his authority and undermining of the public health. The 13-page document laying out a list of grievances, including eliminating research programs, canceling grants, and firing all members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, which sets vaccine policy.
Congresswoman Stevens, currently seeking a Senate seat, telling the New York Times this impeachment bid is no political stunt, quote, I am not one for political theater. I am standing up for the health and safety of the people I represent. Not one for political theater, a claim possibly undermined by this floor speech from March 2020, in which the Congresswoman appeared wearing a
pink latex gloves arguing in an unhinged speech in support of a COVID stimulus package.
of their servitude, sharing in the profession with those who have not come before you. Similar times of trying medical need. Wars and flus pass. You will see darkness. You will be pushed. And our society needs you to stand together at this time. Our country loves you. To our doctors and our nurses, I wear these lace... The gentlelady's time has expired.
The gentleman from Maryland is reserved. HHS spokesperson Andrew Nixon telling The Hill on Wednesday, quote, Secretary Kennedy remains focused on improving Americans' health and lowering costs, not on partisan theatrics designed to elevate standing in a failing third-rate Senate bid. Neither one of these efforts are expected to go anywhere, as they lack support from Democrat leadership.
And Republicans control the House. Trigger warning. If you have children listening, this next story could cause an outburst. In-N-Out fast food burger chain officially retiring order number 6-7 following the viral 6-7 meme craze. People magazine confirming the number removed from the order lineup following incidents of chaos.
Young customers flocking to the counter, eagerly awaiting the order number to be called, and then... pandemonium.
Guess number six, seven.
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