SBA Fraud Probed, RFK Jr and Hegseth Targeted for Impeachment, In-N-Out Bans “6-7”: AM Update 12/11
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Good morning, everyone. I'm Emily Jashinsky, host of After Party and the Megyn Kelly Wrap-Up Show on Sirius XM Channel 111. It's Thursday, December 11th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.
Unfortunately, the SBA's 8-day program has been a magnet for fraudsters since its inception.
Another federal program under multiple investigations following accusations of rampant fraud and abuse. Customs and Border Protection considers screening social media histories for some travelers seeking entry into the U.S.
I introduced articles to impeach Secretary Pete Hexeth.
RFK Jr. has got to go. Two Democrat lawmakers filing performative articles of impeachment against two top Trump cabinet officials. And a fast food chain takes a stand against a viral meme craze. You know the one. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
Thank you so much for having me.
What fraud issues are being investigated in the SBA's 8(a) program?
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federal contracting program intended for, quote, experienced small business owners who are socially and economically disadvantaged, including Black, Hispanic, Native, and other groups, now the target of investigations by the Small Business Administration, or SBA, the Treasury Department, and the Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship, amid accusations of rampant fraud. Historically, about 5% of government contracts were set aside under what is known as the 8A program, the Biden administration tripling the goal to 15% of total government contracts. In fiscal year 2024, the program handing out $40 billion in awards. In June, one government official and three executives pleading guilty to a decade-long bribery scheme involving at least 14 contracts totaling more than $550 million.
Prosecutors saying the government official sidestepped the competitive bidding process to steer lucrative contracts under the 8A program to executives who were paying him kickbacks. SBA Administrator Kelly Leffler ordering a review of the program to identify similar examples of misconduct.
What new vetting rules are being proposed for travelers entering the U.S.?
In October, investigative journalist James O'Keefe releasing a video further exposing alleged fraud within the program. The director of contracts for an 8A company explaining to O'Keefe how businesses in the program are able to win the contracts, then pass off the majority of the work through subcontractors.
and i tell you pass-throughs are a great thing as well tell me about those well so we'll pass through because you're native american right if you have uh there's a big bid out and there's a company that wants to bid on that that's not native american all they do is partner with you they use their people they you subcontract to them right they're your subs so a lot of our subcontractors bid on contracts that were perfect in their industry, but because they weren't Native American, they wouldn't win it. So we bid on it for them, they became our sub, and it's an automatic win. because of the government's status. You automatically will win that contract because of your Native American status. There's no bidding.
Why were articles of impeachment filed against Secretaries Hegseth and RFK Jr.?
There's no bidding war.
The director telling O'Keeffe their company completes about 20% of the work, passing off the remaining 80% to other contractors in violation of rules regarding subcontracting. That company is now under investigation by the SBA. O'Keefe's reporting triggering an additional wave of investigations. The Treasury Department in November announcing its own probe into the program, covering about $9 billion worth of contracts.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:02–1:28
2
What fraud issues are being investigated in the SBA's 8(a) program?
1:28–3:27
3
What new vetting rules are being proposed for travelers entering the U.S.?
3:27–4:31
4
Why were articles of impeachment filed against Secretaries Hegseth and RFK Jr.?
4:31–6:19
5
How is In-N-Out responding to the viral '6-7' meme?
6:19–15:23
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What are the implications of the SBA's 8(a) program fraud revelations?
15:23–19:34
Speakers
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